Firstly before people think I'm just defending my class, Ill say I don't play hemo spec and really don't like it, I've also not tested nokaleds as extensively as kemii has but surely if their proc rate was bugged it would also show in pve, yet their overall proc damage at the end of a fight is consistent with what you would expect judging by retail logs. Vial of shadows is the same and the ICD (roughly 9 seconds) is also working correctly.
Just a little something I feel that people overlook.
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This is the best **** since sliced bread. I'm a veteran of this place. Trust.
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We've all seen that PvE broke PvP and even if it's blizzards fault, there are ways to stop it. Warmane could just write a script that doesnt allow to queue arena with more than pve-items above 384 for example. maybe 390 so if ppl rly want to they can use Raid Finder equip. (99% of players use donated stuff instead of earned pve anyway)
so maybe it's blizzards fault, but why don't we stop that. PvP would be rly nice if everyone was in full PvP gear. We had 12k players online ALL times on 4.0.6 times cause there was actually good and competitive pvp going on, but no one likes the state of PvP atm. One-shot is not fun, outplay is
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And where do you think their money comes from?
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you mean warmane's or the money of the players?
anyway i don't think anyone that wants to do serious pvp would cry about their gurths/nokaleds/kirils etc... removed.
...not if you want to play fun pvp, you could still enable them in Bg and do your super heavy dmg there :)
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I agree that PvP would be a lot different in a good way if PvE items wouldnt be able to use in Arenas. The thing is, Warmane needs money to sustain this realm.
And isn't just about Bgs, I see a lot of rogues who have no idea how to play an Arena and they used to be low rating af when they only used PvP items, so what do they do? Buy kaleds and trinkets that can carry them and gg, they're pros.
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you are right, warmane needs to earn money when they want to maintain the servers. But did you consider that are almost no new players to cata? The amount of players gets lower n lower, so i dont think that there are that many donations to come in terms of gear, since everyone that wanted them already has them. AND if you disable PvE gears don't underestimate the amount of players that are willing to buy elite dagger/swords etc for even the slightest advantage. And if you make raid-finder items available you'll also increased donations, thanks to all the pallies that would suck nuts if they were without 2 set ;)
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I would love to see both retris and rogues without PvE gear.... >_<
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OMG yes...
those rogues be like: damn i need to see the back of my enemy?????
wtf is backstep????
rogues these days can't even sap after blind or fear T.T
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Cmon, they don't even need... that would just stop them of 1shoting people to sap someone... The time of they walking into the guy under the cc chain could be used to proc the kaleds for 3 or 4 times :D
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feel bad for any rogue using no'khaleds
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Simplicity is the few rogues with enough balls to play without Kaleds... but heeeey... what about that Vial aaanh? >_>
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guys guys, rogue still cant 3 shot ppl like enhas or rets can. so pwease stfu
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True true... they will 4 shot ppl :D
The difference is, Retris need to get Holy Power to use their main damage ability, TV; Enahs need to stack 5 times teh searing to use their main damage ability, LS; rogues, need to be behind the target to use their main damage ability, Hemmo or Ambush if stealth; but Hemo rogues don't need anything of that, its just spamm button 1 and wait for the procs.
But still you're right, Enhas and Retris have more dmg.
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3 shot? Thats too much.. i one shot ppl with my ret...
