WotLK Which is better for pvp unholy or frost?

[Slipmeistera]

Hi, I'm interested in playing a dk can you tell me which one is better for pvp ?

[dike]

uh dk was always superior to frost in terms of competitve pvp. frost is only viable in 2v2 and only with hpala or disco. while unholy shines both in 2v2 and in 3v3 brackets

[angrylol]

Also unholy is pretty good against any enemy, considering it is a melee class, very good survivability, good burst that right now it is very easily countered thanks to some bugs on DW/Ragn. Can be challenging if you play on high exp realms, but if you do 55-80 on x1 you already know how it all works.

Also unholy can be very very defensive or offensive, you just have to choose which build you like.

[slymania1]

UH all the way.

Also, as a sidenote, little known funfact: 3.3.5 with this gear makes blood a very interesting spec, i'm talking about this one, where you get unholy blight.
http://wotlk.openwow.com/talent#jfVR...f0sZMZfMGh0fzL

It rekks right now because of the high damage on low resilience, with hs, ds and death coil glyphed. :)
Not saying it's better, just interesting.

I guess DK is in a pretty good place right now regarding pvp.

[taralej]

The burst from the gargoyle, the stun from the ghoul, and the anti-dispel from Unholy Blight make Unholy the best PvP spec on WotLK.

[Slipmeistera]

Thank you very much guys i'm going to try unholy for now.In the future i will expirement with my dual-talents.

[dike]

UH all the way.

Also, as a sidenote, little known funfact: 3.3.5 with this gear makes blood a very interesting spec, i'm talking about this one, where you get unholy blight.
http://wotlk.openwow.com/talent#jfVR...f0sZMZfMGh0fzL

It rekks right now because of the high damage on low resilience, with hs, ds and death coil glyphed. :)
Not saying it's better, just interesting.

I guess DK is in a pretty good place right now regarding pvp.

dk's were fotm of the whole lich king expansion, regardless of gear lvl

[Kemii]

dk's were fotm of the whole lich king expansion, regardless of gear lvl

And Cataclsym...
Blizzard realise how OP Dk was, nerfed them into the ground in MOP....
And then made them FOTM again in WOD.

#NeverBalanaced.

[taralej]

Pls don't mention Cata PvP, I'm still recovering from the brain damage dual-Blood teams caused me.

Blizzard has never ever done anything more stupid than that imo, allowing a tank spec to not only be viable for PvP but even dominate in BGs and vs specific comps in arenas for an entire goddamn expansion, while at the same time Prot Warr and Prot Pala PvP were destroyed. ****ing *****s...

[Kemii]

Pls don't mention Cata PvP, I'm still recovering from the brain damage dual-Blood teams caused me.

Blizzard has never ever done anything more stupid than that imo, allowing a tank spec to not only be viable for PvP but even dominate in BGs and vs specific comps in arenas for an entire goddamn expansion, while at the same time Prot Warr and Prot Pala PvP were destroyed. ****ing *****s...

Gladiator Warriors in WOD.... Blood DKs in WOD.... Feral Bears in WOD...
#ClassViability

[Jakkre]

Unholy is more common in pvp and many ppl falsely think that its the better spec.
Unholy and Frost have both its pro and cons and in the end they are equally good.
When it comes to frost dk, Hpala+Fdk is one of the strongest 2s setups out there.
In 3v3 Hpala, prot warr, Fdk is also a setup that is cappable to reach rank 1.

[dike]

3.3.5 - 3v3 - double melee comp r1? ahahahahah

[Jakkre]

3.3.5 - 3v3 - double melee comp r1? ahahahahah

Yep.
As far I know this setup was once even rank one on AT 3s tournament.

[Zedarus]

First of all should mention Frost is very easy spec to play; grip HC healer, burst dps with trinket procs. Play at pillar if you don't have defensive cds ready.

With that established, we can now see, Frost has particular strenght which is being able to CC enemy team every 1 minute while bringing immense burst / pressure to table.

Frost TSG is particularly strong in 3v3 but there isn't really any decent DKs apart from myself that can play the setup, not to mention very minimal amount of warriors that can play 3v3 and not just 2v2 (both Arms and Prot work just fine).

2v2: Frost DK / Hpal is stronger than any other DK setup you can get. Even on molten with your broken SP damage. Naturally, it has small weaknesses for example lower survivablity vs double dps comp, but properly exploiting Hungering Cold easily overcomes that. You can also just counter-zerg double dps teams.

I'm personally fan of shadowcleave type of comps as unholy, but I have to tell you that Frost / any spec warrior comp is multiple times strong than sp dk healer or ele dk healer in 3s. There are few exceptions eg unholy vs LSP kind of teams but it's just nitpicking anymore.

People just drop like flies when you run TSG as Frost.

If someone tries to claim Unholy is better without proper arguements, he hasn't seen Frost TSG globaling people in stuns.

[dike]

First of all should mention Frost is very easy spec to play; grip HC healer, burst dps with trinket procs. Play at pillar if you don't have defensive cds ready.

With that established, we can now see, Frost has particular strenght which is being able to CC enemy team every 1 minute while bringing immense burst / pressure to table.

Frost TSG is particularly strong in 3v3 but there isn't really any decent DKs apart from myself that can play the setup, not to mention very minimal amount of warriors that can play 3v3 and not just 2v2 (both Arms and Prot work just fine).

2v2: Frost DK / Hpal is stronger than any other DK setup you can get. Even on molten with your broken SP damage. Naturally, it has small weaknesses for example lower survivablity vs double dps comp, but properly exploiting Hungering Cold easily overcomes that. You can also just counter-zerg double dps teams.

I'm personally fan of shadowcleave type of comps as unholy, but I have to tell you that Frost / any spec warrior comp is multiple times strong than sp dk healer or ele dk healer in 3s. There are few exceptions eg unholy vs LSP kind of teams but it's just nitpicking anymore.

People just drop like flies when you run TSG as Frost.

If someone tries to claim Unholy is better without proper arguements, he hasn't seen Frost TSG globaling people in stuns.

zedar, biggest problem is - no one gives a single **** about prot in 3v3 on DW/Rag. he is just globalled by any caster cleave team - shadowfury gg. it is viable on blackrock for more cuz those human locks/priests cant have cts+potnl hc trinkets combo
So if prot and fdk aren't scripted to the teath - comp will be unviable on Dw/Rag