dk rant

[r41ncl0ud]

No ur not but sometimes they use Ambush too u know ?

I even see them use stealth every once and a while.

Wow, it looks like someone got mad here... Is it a child logic just because you have a different opinion? How much egocentric can you be? :D
Plus, don't get me wrong, I know pretty well that rogue isn't a easy class to master, but everything I said was "rogues would just need to spam Hemo to do high damage" if you're a Hemo speced rogue ofc. Please tell me, why is that wrong?

I think by how upset he got, we can tell how he plays rogue.

[Qulx]

back to the topic, dk is not op, it's anti caster class not anti melee, you actually have quite a bad time vs good melee oponents.

i play dk as main and havent seen any good dk's lately. only on low skill level dk might seem op, but as soon as your skill lvl increases you will know how to deal with them

[fepnatchy]

back to the topic, dk is not op, it's anti caster class not anti melee, you actually have quite a bad time vs good melee oponents.

i play dk as main and havent seen any good dk's lately. only on low skill level dk might seem op, but as soon as your skill lvl increases you will know how to deal with them

You are protecting DKs since you main them.
Can we not have a balanced game?

I agree that DKs are a counter class to casters but you have to be sensible here.
There is a fine line between DKs raping everyone in sight (simply because you cannot cast vs a good dk) and being balanced.
Especially since dks are able to solo every healer in the game (best healer killer). Theres a line between the damage done, and the interrupts.

Pets should not be doing more than the damage from the DK - whatsoever.
Dks are supposed to effectively 'smother' a caster not global them.

They really need to look at pet damage - it is not fun being raped by automatic damage.
Are you seriously suggesting that dk/pets are fine?

The reason you haven't seen any good dk's is because you dont need to be a good dk to do damage / solo.
There used to be a massive difference in terms of both damage and CD usage for a DK - thats not evident anymore to my mind anyway.

Why are people who don't actually understand how a class works correctly back on retail cata think they can have the right to QQ?
You also need to understand the UHDK was the highest represented class/spec in S11, they were complete beasts in arenas.

It's a shame that the second Warmane fix a class everyone goes up in arms about how its OP now...

So please, if you have no idea how a class was back on retail for the current patch, please just stop posting.

Kemi - You obviously have no idea how the class was back on retail.
Clueless at best.

[MileR88]

can we get some legit cata video to compare UH DK ability dmg and not this "omg that dk killed me faster then i think its supposed to, my friend/grandpa told me how it was on retail" etc ?

[Kemii]

Kemi - You obviously have no idea how the class was back on retail.
Clueless at best.

Think you'll find I do know.
Gargoyle should be doing your top 2-3 DPS during your burst.
A gargoyle on a non healer should take out chunks of damage.

Your pet should account for 35% of your damage minimum (In PvE, PvP it depends on your uptime on your target).

But sure, I know nothing about the class I've played for ≥4 years both here and on retail.. Nope, absolutly nothing. /s

[Davelan]

Think you'll find I do know.
Gargoyle should be doing your top 2-3 DPS during your burst.
A gargoyle on a non healer should take out chunks of damage.

Your pet should account for 35% of your damage minimum (In PvE, PvP it depends on your uptime on your target).

But sure, I know nothing about the class I've played for ≥4 years both here and on retail.. Nope, absolutly nothing. /s

It's ok Jyx, they're just ignorant fools not knowing they're in the presence of a pro :x

[Indivision]

Only problem I have with DK pets are the pets doing damage while under CC.

Leap doesn't work, only during DT.

What you people are experience is:

Retail damage.

Kemii was on the QA team and has been playing Cata both on and off here (and retail) for longer than anyone, so who would have more credibility in retail damage and DK (a class that she mains on), or some random people on the forums who only played WOW private servers and never actually seen how working classes properly function etc: people thinking censure damage was working fine when it was bugged, grounding totem los, earth shield ticks (though fixed)

[Serenebladez]

dk is the class with most positive bugs that can ever exist on warmane from 1 dot you get full runic power instead max 20 runic power per all ticks, pet enrage consumes 60% instead 30% you can't even turn evil the pet it still attacks you when you stun your focus target on cast the pet stun resets, only negative bug i would say is that when you kick garg it gets locked it has to just stop his cast and start going again if ppl qq here that dk is bad they should reinstall their life and never get reborn again

[Kemii]

dk is the class with most positive bugs that can ever exist on warmane from 1 dot you get full runic power instead max 20 runic power per all ticks, pet enrage consumes 60% instead 30% you can't even turn evil the pet it still attacks you when you stun your focus target on cast the pet stun resets, only negative bug i would say is that when you kick garg it gets locked it has to just stop his cast and start going again if ppl qq here that dk is bad they should reinstall their life and never get reborn again

You forget about the negative bugs.

Death's Advance not proccing from anything but Melee Attacks.
Scourge Strike not dealing Shadow portion if the original melee attack was absorbed.
Runes being spent incorrectly leading to downtime and too much RNG
Pet dying in one bladestorm or from any form of AOE.
Dark Sim still not working correctly (Just for ONCE I want to get fear off a priest... but nope, never works)

These are the ones just of the top of my head.... Scary thought, DKs would be beastly if the above worked correctly.

[Serenebladez]

You forget about the negative bugs.

Death's Advance not proccing from anything but Melee Attacks.
Scourge Strike not dealing Shadow portion if the original melee attack was absorbed.
Runes being spent incorrectly leading to downtime and too much RNG
Pet dying in one bladestorm or from any form of AOE.
Dark Sim still not working correctly (Just for ONCE I want to get fear off a priest... but nope, never works)

These are the ones just of the top of my head.... Scary thought, DKs would be beastly if the above worked correctly.

scourge strike isn't even needed only dark sim is a bit of negative bug but however there are much more positive bugs which make the dk sick on warmane on AT dk dmg wasn't even close as this

[dwallinn]

You forget about the negative bugs.


Dark Sim still not working correctly (Just for ONCE I want to get fear off a priest... but nope, never works)

These are the ones just of the top of my head.... Scary thought, DKs would be beastly if the above worked correctly.

I'm stealing fears just fine, the only thing I can't steal with dark sim is wings, dks are already insanely good, one of the best classes atm along with ferals which is why it's so strange to see people complain about it

[Astrobazooka]

After last changelog runes seems to be working just fine. The biggest pain is that you canno't kick with your pet I guess.

[Serenebladez]

After last changelog runes seems to be working just fine. The biggest pain is that you canno't kick with your pet I guess.

who needs pet kick just check how much dark infusion or w/e when its 5 stacks it says 30% dmg increase and when you transform the pet it says 60% dmg increase, i see videos from neroxz vs shadowplay fully dotted he uses ams can't even get half bar runic power here 1 dot ticks like piercing shots from hunter you get 130 rp insta

[fepnatchy]

Only problem I have with DK pets are the pets doing damage while under CC.

Leap doesn't work, only during DT.

What you people are experience is:

Retail damage.

Kemii was on the QA team and has been playing Cata both on and off here (and retail) for longer than anyone, so who would have more credibility in retail damage and DK (a class that she mains on), or some random people on the forums who only played WOW private servers and never actually seen how working classes properly function etc: people thinking censure damage was working fine when it was bugged, grounding totem los, earth shield ticks (though fixed)

Just because she played dk since the start of cata retail doesnt mean she is right. From the comments of dks being negatively bugged I can only assume that she played at 1800 rating throughout whole retail or has completely forgotten retail.

Pets are not fine.
Why is every dk doing same pressure as top dks did on live? Even dog**** dks are able to solo any healer right now its funny

Dk is fine pets are really not.

[Astrobazooka]

Im not that much into dk's, but before the update you could bug runs so you can stack necros to high numbers in just mere seconds. I have no idea if dk's abused it, but it was game breaking as hell. Glad they fixed it already !