For your own knowledge, Unholy DK was most negative bugged class/spec on Warmane before we got this new core.
Secondly, On DBS adds die in 3 secconds because WARRIOR kills them with its own AOE spells. So the DK does not even have a time to aoe. In order for DK to aoe, adds must live 20 seconds because DK dots last over 20 seconds. In situation where adds die in 3-4 seconds it is not reccomended for DK to use pestilence and spend that GCD for nothing.
Third thing. This guild is Encore, former Solace. With most Lods and Halions ever on this server.
And finally, all classes done huge dps. Almost everyone in top 5 is above 20K, so idk what you are talking about.
PS. If you mean Warrior top dps with titan grip exploit for 30% more damage on offhand + Glancing blows exploit to stack agility and reduce Glancing Blow percent to 7% where it should allways be 24-26% then you are right. I cant outdps that kind of Warrior. Not with negative bugged DK.
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Taralej status = Rekt.
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No, I mean proper data with proper BiS sets and properly played classes. "For your own knowledge", nothing on WotLK can outDPS a SM+Gloren Warrior. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. If you knew enough about the game, you wouldn't be even arguing with me about this. I don't give a **** how good you think you or your guild is, it doesn't matter even one bit, because we're not even talking about skill here, only you are - if a full biS Warrior or TTW mage is not #1 on DBS, then we've got a problem - either those guys sucked or other guys benefit from positive buffs. There is simply no other option, don't you understand??? I am very aware of how bugged UDK was (and still is). Still, your numbers mean nothing to me. You're not supposed to be top DPS as Unholy. If you're top DPS as Unholy, then something is just wrong - it's as simple as that. But yeah, keep boasting about Halion and LoD kills on Warmane - this will surely make your argument stronger of how "skill" can suddenly make a spec pull more DPS than it is mathematically possible.
Stop talking as if your personal skill is what makes you top DPS. Because it doesn't. Unholy has a BiS list, it has a strict rotation - thus it has a DPS roof. DPS is not a personal e-peen race, it's mathematics. Learning your spec's best rotation is not rocket science, it requires just several hours of reading and sitting at the target dummy. Congratulations - you've done that. You're not helping yourself like that, you're discrediting your own guildmates by implying they're bad, and you're making yourself sound funny. At the same time you're saying "it's all about the player" and then immediately after that "I'm in a guild where everyone knows how to play". If it was like that, you wouldn't have mages on 6th place DPS, beaten by shadow priests. And then you're also saying "here I'm 2nd because this mage knows how to play" - wait, so the rest don't? But didn't you just say you were in a top guild, so everyone should know how to play, right? Do you see the flaw in your own argument now?
When I top the meters with a class/spec that is not supposed to do that, I don't feel like an almighty God, swelling with pride and linking Recount in raid chat. I've done nothing special, I've just kept my rotation strictly and had the highest uptime on the boss, while also abiding to the tactics. I don't say to myself "damn, I'm so good, I'm such a pro, look at what DPS I am doing". On the contrary, I see my DPS and know that it is totally expected from my gear and spec to pull out that much DPS and instead look at my guildies and wonder why is theirs so low. When you have someone of the same spec and gear pulling ~2k DPS less than you, it doesn't mean you're "better" than them - you're simply doing what you're supposed to do. It means they're doing something wrong.
I had totally forgotten about this thread and I dunno why I even clicked on it. I am going to say it just one more time - UDK is not a top DPSer on WotLK. If you're on 1st place, then either your guildies were slacking/bad, or negative/positive bugs were affecting the fight. I don't know how to explain it any simpler to your egocentric e-peen mind. Your whole mindset about DPSing, PvE and "skill" is distorted, so I really have no hopes of convincing you on a forum, unless you really think about it yourself. Why do you think the others stopped arguing with you on the previous pages? Because you're "right"?! Hah...Edited: March 31, 2016
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Clearly that must mean that YOU are right! Right?!
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No, it means he's wrong, his whole viewpoint is wrong, and people are sick of arguing with him. What are you implying, Lynea?
He's the one making a point here that "if you're skilled, then Unholy can top DPS", which is utter nonsense. I'm "super uber OP high skilled" in Arms PvE, does that mean the spec is viable for me and competitive with Fury??? Of course ****ing not! Unholy has a roof DPS, like any other spec, and it is lower than the roof DPS of TTW mages or Fury warriors. Period.
And this discussion has gone far off the original topic, to be honest.Edited: March 31, 2016
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Topping 22k dps with unholy is normal with bis gear and if you know how to play, Topping on lich king with unholy is more then normal, specially if you pestilence whoring on vile spirits, valks, ghouls and shamblings, Why dont you show details with your attacks and abilities on recount? Id love to se dmg done on lich king in %. Even on DBS I would like to se that since you go "Fury warrs cleave adds" but I dont se any Warrs on your recount wich surely meant you got some dps from adds?
Allthough it sure sounded like "omg Im best unholy cause im nr 2 on dbs in best guild" when the top 3-4 people in raid barely go over 20k dps, Come back to ous with the same statements when you have the majority of raid over 20k and you lay as nr 8-9 on recount with 22k dps (wich should be normal)
I se hunters every day ending on 27k dps,, Combat rogues 26k, Fury warrs 26k, Frost Dk's 25k.
It just proves again that your not special, The people in your raid just do bad dps.Edited: April 1, 2016
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Finally someone else said it! Thank you, Disktrasa!
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No no, you are the one who is brainless here and who think that by only having the Fury War with SM by default is top dps?
Then you say Unholy has roof dps, like warrior doesn't?
And after all you speak about Warrior like other classes are trash and not worth playing.
Again I stick to the one and only truth. It is all about player.
When everyone was saying rogue sucked (pre wipe) guild master of Dignity and old Fatality topped the dps with that same rogue everyone proclaimed is trash. I saw same situations with Warlock and even Enha SHaman. That all means it is about player.
But I understand your lack of knowledge because you, and many other players see warrior topping the DPS more often then some other classes, for example Unholy. But as we see Unholy can be in top 3 dps if well played, which means 2 things. It is all about player, and Unholy is harder. Otherwise there would be bunch of Unholy Death Knights around (like it is with Warriors now).
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In my 4 years of Molten I saw only 3-4 Unholys doing above 22k dps on DBS. So it is not normal. I am willing to see you doing that if it is normal like you say.
I was also seeing hunters with 26K dps, but that was before new core. Chimera Shot - double dip. Chimera shot Serpent - double dip, Wild Quiver - double dip. The same bug Paladin had with SOV. Test your stupid hunter now and you will see real Hunter Damage. And also test your Warrior now when it can not exploit 30% titan grip and reduce its glancng blows to 7% by stacking agility.
PS. You allready forgot all the cleves warrior was doing on Lich King before this new core?
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You got the answer yourseld, go play your rogue, if you enjoy it. If you can get into a nice guild, people will need your dps, as long as you get good playing your rogue. You can always try the dk later, when you get bored (it's not hard to lvl here).
