Half ignoring the feedback

[Mercy]

Doesn't that contradict with past statements made before? Mainly from the information from the past threads and so-called streams and whatnot? Kear, Spark and the others said otherwise in those streams too.

What do you mean? That the staff should blindly follow what the community says to do?

[Drkwispurr]

What do you mean? That the staff should blindly follow what the community says to do?

Obviously not, but no one can expect that Icecrown community (Nelth and Frostwolf too) will be fine with sudden changes to blizzlike x1 and such, especially where most of us are here for the fast rates and completely hate the x1 grind hardcore, I think we already have another server for that as far as I know

[Russkov]

When someone says they will listen to your feedback it doesn't mean that they will do as you tell them too.
Feedback may or may not change how things are handled from the original plan the entity wants to do.

What do you mean? That the staff should blindly follow what the community says to do?

Situation is this: If you take a look to feedback official thread and other user's threads you'll see how many people is with this and how many is not. If you like numbers, let's say 80-85% of people who read and posted is against it, and on top of that many of us told you how irrational was the "lowering rates to benefit newcomers". Community don't say "do what we want", but asks for a bit of common sense. Lowering rep rates doesn't change economy at all, and will make more low lvls being ganked on their questing spots. I'm an old player who has many gold that I don't even use it, have many alts with lvled professions and grinded rep with my main. This changes don't affect people like me, but do affect newcomers and will make the "gap" between old and new players even wider. Is that what you want?

[Chizuru]

What do you mean? That the staff should blindly follow what the community says to do?

You didnt Merge Nelth into MOP because what SOME forum naysayers said it, you even had to threaten them with the "no merge, no complaints then" ultimatum

You are implementing gold squishes and rate changes to every realm because the people from LORDAERON (and -only- lordaeron) asked for it

[Harai]

The only thing I'm going to say is that "Fast rate" Doesn't exactly outline what is suppose to be fast. I Believe they are trying to make the game last, if you get everything right away it will get boring pretty quick.

You can repeat that all you want it wont become the truth
Icecrown have the double of population than Lordaeron, and the gap is widening

[DonDeBass]

What do you mean? That the staff should blindly follow what the community says to do?

Well, do you expect us players not to say anything? I thought that's the purpose of Forum.

[Mercy]

Well, do you expect us players not to say anything? I thought that's the purpose of Forum.

There is a very clear difference between "feedback" and "whatever you say will be done".

[romz]

There is a very clear difference between "feedback" and "whatever you say will be done".

I think with asking for feedback and players giving feedback then saying "too bad we are doing this anyways" defeats the purpose of asking for feedback and is frustrating people. Like what is the point of asking for feedback when Warmane already made a decision about doing it anyways?

[Mercy]

Except "too bad we are doings this anyways" is not what was said by anyone on the staff's side. In fact, we made concessions. I mean, even this thread's title is "Half ignoring", implying that half of it was listened to at the very least. So trying to say things like this towards us is rather inappropriate.

[romz]

Except "too bad we are doings this anyways" is not what was said by anyone on the staff's side. In fact, we made concessions. I mean, even this thread's title is "Half ignoring", implying that half of it was listened to at the very least. So trying to say things like this towards us is rather inappropriate.

The "too bad we are doing this anyways" is more of what the players may see and not that Warmane literally said it (poor wording on my part). The players can't see the inner workings of Warmane so things can feel like that.

[martincro]

When someone says they will listen to your feedback it doesn't mean that they will do as you tell them too.
Feedback may or may not change how things are handled from the original plan the entity wants to do.

Of course, thats why i named topic "halfignoring feedback". Because i believe that is the case. Correct me if im wrong, but i did not see much of twoway communication regarding this topic. Im sorry if I insulted you or anyone oth there from warmane community, butthis will dissapoint way to many people. On MOP plenty of rep quests are bugged not to mention blossom valley client crash on half of quests. herbalisam in northrend is bugged as well as some fishing schools and they will implement 1x rep and professions :v such fun.
I guess we don't have same definition of "Game" and "Fun".
i hope decisionmakers will recieve message sent by majority. Cause this is just bad, as i said, GOLDSQUISH (Y) rep and profession rate lowering... nein...

[Chicagobulls23]

server is only for the people from LORDAERON (and -only- lordaeron) this realm....

[Obnoxious]

Of course, thats why i named topic "halfignoring feedback". Because i believe that is the case. Correct me if im wrong, but i did not see much of twoway communication regarding this topic.

Feedback isn't necessarily a two-way communication thing. It's usually more about getting opinions and alternate points of view that might not have been considered when the plan was written down. Even more so in a case such as this, where players aren't the decision-makers.

If all the provided feedback is about something that was considered, what would you expect to happen? When most of the feedback is "players won't like," "it will be too slow," and "this isn't what I joined <server> for," there isn't a whole lot to extract from it besides what was already known and considered. Even more substantial concerns, such as...

On MOP plenty of rep quests are bugged not to mention blossom valley client crash on half of quests. herbalisam in northrend is bugged as well as some fishing schools and they will implement 1x rep and professions

... had been thought about and Proterean has informed all those should be fixed before any changes happen.

You act like you got BlueAo's point, saying "of course," but did you?

[Gobarz]

What do you mean? That the staff should blindly follow what the community says to do?

No, the streams stated that staff will do it's best to better the community by listening to them, to not go ahead with taking a decision without seeing how the community feels about it first.
The stream showed a few of the warmane staffers, including kear speaking as well. this was very early on and seeing what they said that time all the way to present day, some can see the comparisons. So it isn't blindly following what the community says when something similar was pushed to and directed at a recovering community, for instance, making promises, compared to those videos back then and information up to now, many differences.

If I am not mistaken, haven't you yourself mention something of the sort before?

EDIT:

Seems the twitch videos have suddenly vanished, thank goodness Funkysday kept his.

[Ghinbedi]

Except "too bad we are doings this anyways" is not what was said by anyone on the staff's side. In fact, we made concessions. I mean, even this thread's title is "Half ignoring", implying that half of it was listened to at the very least. So trying to say things like this towards us is rather inappropriate.

might i ask what concessions have been made regarding to the upcoming changes?