Uhhh, that was an odd comment.
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I was/am feeling odd at the moment. Does that make me right or left?
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Why not both ? :)
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I agree. It's actually a good idea to keep both hands. Though I hear in some middle-eastern countries, you can still get a hand cut off when you steal something. I wonder if those areas are left or right, and which hand would they normally cut off first, and does that have any relation with whether they are left or right?
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Their main hand is the hand that they lose. Therefore if they're a left handed person, they lose their left hand and vice-versa.
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I see. So is that region left or right wing?
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Both, considering that I use both hands for multiple functions. I guess that it would be a thing of the moment.
Edited: December 22, 2016
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Fighting isnt only done in wars, its done through all your life.
For example one day after working for 30 years every day (especially back then with the world wars and bad education in most of the world) you get to build your house and move your family in it for generations to come. Would you like that house falling into hands of someone who invaded you? Your family belongings spread around the pillagers as loot, your family members murdered or worse in the very place you all felt safe in?
Or for a more realistic view of it based on current status of white countries, you pay taxes.
That is a well designed system as long as it applies only to the well-being of the ones that contribute to it.
But now it is beyond that, now it focuses on the well-being of the ones that don't contribute in any way to the country you live in.
So now you will pay 0.8e for the bread*that feeds your family instead of 0.5e, because the 0.3e has to go to an immigrant that doesn't want to find work and has to live in a shelter designed for them to have free meals and activities and education if needed.
Basically you work for them to have a nice life, instead of investing fully into your own interests.
Patriotism is healthy, of course not the extreme variations of it, just normal 'don't touch me and I won't touch you' way of thinking.
*applied to everything bread is just an example of how that works
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You mean like what was done to colonize and create USA?
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The whole Americas suffered that fate actually.
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That's curable. You just need to understand why communism isn't economically viable.
I considered myself a communist in the past too :(. It happens.
Have you ever heard about libertarianism?
Shame if the right wing in your country is represented mostly by xenophobics. I don't agree with many of their ideals but hey, they're much less destructible to society than the left wing.
I think the best system is the one each individual chooses what they want to do with their lives, without any group or government deciding for him what he needs to do. If the only existing laws are the natural human rights of freedom and property, I see no weakness.
I don't think wealth inequality is a problem. If one produces more for society, he deserves a reward. Of course, with corrupt governments here and there, in many countries you don't actually have to be useful at all to society to be rich. Though, capitalism itself isn't the problem here, but governments.
Just an opinion outside the right-left wings box.
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Eh. What about greed?
What about the fact that we're talking about mankind here? It's historically known that mankind is filled with ignorance no matter how much we develop. Give a fellow men the chance of living under no laws and you'll see a destruction road popping in a matter of minutes.
Most of the mankind requires rules, hell, we don't even know how to live in society with the current rules of different countries. Claiming that there's no weakness in such statement is being delusional and being way too pure.
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As did most of Europe, multiple times even, including times they had to get outside help.
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I still defend the theory that mankind only develops once they feel pain in some sort of way. That's what makes people endure.
Same reason why countries were formed and have such a sense of patriotism; They were born through blood, sweat and tears.
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That's not completely true. Yes, greed is a part of humanity, but it does not necessarily mean a bad thing.
Let me give you an example, out of many: You are a greedy businessman. You'd prefer to open a business in a country where you are friends with the politcians, or in a country where the free market competition is dominant?
In a free market your greed will turn into willpower to offer a better service to society. That's the only way to grow richer. Society would not buy your products if you are throwing prices high. Or if you paid low salaries your workers would not work well, your products would decrease in quality, and you would lose a portion of the market to the competition.
You could say you could form a cartel with other businessmen. Tell me, until when you will be able to mantain a cartel, while there are more and more people who wants to compete with you?
It's weird to think for the first time of a world without a government. There are so many problems, all of them directly or indirectly related to the existance of governments. You end up thinking a government is necessary to mantain order. But society in general prefers order over chaos, I'm sure society can organize itself without a government robbing and lying to people, only so that the politicians and their friends will grow wealthier and more powerful.
It was weird to think of a world without kings centuries ago, too.
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