Battleground Botters

[Marticco]

Main Topic:
Over the past few months there has been a large increase in the amount of people AFK on Battleground. Most of these people are using Bots to auto enter Battleground and AFK throughout the game. Its ruining the game on a massive scale (especially on the horde side).
There has be something Warmane can do about these Botters, because it's basically impossible for players to get them banned. Because of these AFK people many players I say again many players have even suggested changing servers to play MOP. I think this is something worth looking into for Warmane.

OFF-Topic:
There are again some people who refuse to PvP in battleground and just wait for Battleground to end in the starting area ( I don't know much about the alliance side but here on the Horde! there are way too many people like this.)
For example: In a battleground of 10 people on the Horde faction. Mostly about 1-2 people will use bot and about 1-3 people will refuse to PvP at all and stay in starting area as mentioned above.

Suggestion (If it is possible with custom scripts) :
1. Auto Kick players from BGs who don't move 5 yards away from their current position for 5 minutes.
2. Auto Kick players from BGs who don't move from at least 20 yards away from BG starting area for 7 minutes.
3. Ban Auto Kick players from queing BGs for 1 hour.
4. Auto Kick players who refuse to come out from Graveyard for 5 minutes and is 'Out of Combat' for the duration.
(Any normal person will surely move 20 yards away from starting area)

[purr4g]

The real problem is that botting BGs is:

1. Extremely profitable.
2. Has zero risk of any meaningful punishment, so long as you stop if you get caught twice.

Almost no one reports the bots (or the hackers)! I think less than 2% of people who see a BG bot actually make an ingame ticket about it, and less than 0.1% of the time do people video hackers for a report (probably even less often for mere bots). Both these percentages are thought out "high" estimates, based on various observations ingame and the logical conclusions thereof.

As a real life metaphor:

Imagine you are multiple people and can switch who you are.
Time moves forward for all the people you are as normal, but you only experience what goes on for the you who you chose to be.
If you rob a bank and get caught, you have all your money confiscated but keep all your possessions.
"You" also serve jail time the first two times "you" are caught, but that "you" is executed the third time. Jail time does not affect you, as you can simply change to another "you".
The bank doesn't know if it is robbed unless a special representative is there and looking out for a robbery.
Other people in the bank notice if you are robbing the bank. Even though they cannot be harmed, and their banking experience is negatively affected, and they know exactly who you are, the others in the bank don't usually bother to report you for robbing a bank. Almost no one whatsoever gets their phone out and videos you robbing the bank. The video evidence is often not even watched by the bank representative who merely insists he will "look into it".
The bank doesn't really care about being robbed as it magically prints the money at zero cost.

It's only logical to rob banks repeatedly and spend all the money as fast as you can, until caught twice on that particular "you", or do not have anything else you want to buy.

This is an absurd as **** situation, but it's pretty much exactly the situation as it stands regarding botting on new alts on new accounts on this server on any expansion.

[Marticco]

The real problem is that botting BGs is:

1. Extremely profitable.
2. Has zero risk of any meaningful punishment, so long as you stop if you get caught twice.

Almost no one reports the bots (or the hackers)! I think less than 2% of people who see a BG bot actually make an ingame ticket about it, and less than 0.1% of the time do people video hackers for a report (probably even less often for mere bots). Both these percentages are thought out "high" estimates, based on various observations ingame and the logical conclusions thereof.

As a real life metaphor:

Imagine you are multiple people and can switch who you are.
Time moves forward for all the people you are as normal, but you only experience what goes on for the you who you chose to be.
If you rob a bank and get caught, you have all your money confiscated but keep all your possessions.
"You" also serve jail time the first two times "you" are caught, but that "you" is executed the third time. Jail time does not affect you, as you can simply change to another "you".
The bank doesn't know if it is robbed unless a special representative is there and looking out for a robbery.
Other people in the bank notice if you are robbing the bank. Even though they cannot be harmed, and their banking experience is negatively affected, and they know exactly who you are, the others in the bank don't usually bother to report you for robbing a bank. Almost no one whatsoever gets their phone out and videos you robbing the bank. The video evidence is often not even watched by the bank representative who merely insists he will "look into it".
The bank doesn't really care about being robbed as it magically prints the money at zero cost.

It's only logical to rob banks repeatedly and spend all the money as fast as you can, until caught twice on that particular "you", or do not have anything else you want to buy.

This is an absurd as **** situation, but it's pretty much exactly the situation as it stands regarding botting on new alts on new accounts on this server on any expansion.

True that, but with better auto ban or kick function scripted in-game and that is what I suggested since player's can't really ban others cause you cant prove that they are botting or just being afk through even videos making new accounts and botting will become obsolete.