EShop update?

[Azadon]

A) What you describe sounds exactly like you. What gives YOU the RIGHT to tell anyone else what you think under the premise that it is right? What you percieve as childish gibes or immature behavior is from YOUR standpoint. So once again, what makes you so correct that everyone else is wrong?
B) If we are to assume that there are 19000 players, then I suppose we should not get any fixes at all since we are not even 1000+ reporting on bugs or testing. Yet we still recieve fixes for our reports, so your argument is rather invalid. Besides, how can YOU claim to speak for the supposedly 95%?
C) Constructive criticism is one thing. Repeated constructive criticism of repeated patterns tends to get more heated, mainly as nothing changes. But if you believe people here sit and dislike the entire Warmane project as a whole then you are way up in the clouds. If people disliked Warmane they would not play here, simple as that.

a) If I am not misstaken, BT was to have come in December, yet it was postponed.

The things I wrote arent my opinion,

the words that warmane staff phrased on the release have a defintion, I didnt make the definition. I just explained what the words mean if you take the definition of the phrase „at the weekend or slightly before“

I said if you freak out before the end of the deadline and say they didnt make it in time... then you are wrong as per definition because there is still time
left. I dont see how it is my opinion.

When you take what people wrote about the staff and how many assumptions and claims they made... you can take the definition of ungrateful and disrespectful and read the sentences people wrote... it shouldnt be possible to come to other conclusions than the ones I wrote, at least if you are really honest and dont make excuses for your own behaviour

b) what I tried to say is that only because something is important to yourself it doesnt mean it is important for everyone else;

thats why I said that my guess is that around 1k people will buy S2 gear from
the shop ASAP and are thus waiting for the update to happen ASAP.

All people who do not buy S2 items from store ASAP dont care if they are released in time or not; it doesnt matter for them if the items are released on point or not (minus some people that just take the release of items as an example for the trustworthyness of warmanes timeframes)

How many people (not characters) do you think invest real money for buying PvP gear from
S2? It shouldnt be too many because wide parts of the playerbase dont PvP or already dont need S2 Items anymore or have S1 and dont think the gain from S2 is worth it to spend money or gold for coins on these minor upgrades... so only a small very specific range of players are affected.

Not my personal opinion but rough estimations if you look how many people would have a benefit from it

if you put that in relation to all the other player on the server (around 20k should be a not too far away guess) then this topic only matters for 5% of population...
I said that to show that its only affecting a minority of people... and that the minority shouldnt behave as its the most important thing in the world

the fixes you are speaking of are a completely different story; the bugs are affecting way more people of the server (yes I know it doesnt say how many ppl care for) so on a priority list fixing bugs should be higher than implementing S2 stuff

the number of people reporting the bugs has nothing to do with how many player are affected by the bugs nor how many players would like them to be fixed...

c) Its not like I dont understand that if you critisize in a constructive manner and nothing changes it can be frustrating.

but I said something in advance:

if nothing changes, there is a reason for it.

more often than not, you should check wether your criticism is correct or not.

what you have to keep in mind: its warmanes decision what they do and what not

I critisized statements that were very negative and often very subjective because I think nobody that is running such a huge project deserves such bad postings.

Not a single player is forced to play here
Not a single donation is forced by the staff
If you like what you get (FOR FREE), then you are FREE to donate; I already wrote something about what donations are and mean

I tried to give some of the haters the chance a different point of view, namely a point of view that is NOT THEIR OWN... because your own point of view is more often than not a bad advisor if you want to discuss in a way that is solution oriented.

To the BT release part: I dont know if they postponed it (afaik they didnt), I can only say that when they said it will be released at 13pm 21st january they did it on point and as far I can tell bug free for 90% of the content + fixed most if the few bugs within the first week

Feel free to tell me where I‘m wrong Ostlimpa

[Azadon]

take a chill pill, ur overractiong, u make a small thing looks like a wrold scenario

Isnt it ironic that I am the one telling you to NOT make claims about the staff being unprofessional before the time is over?
Or to not simply state that it takes no effort and is easy to do when you habe no idea how hard it is... and in turn make them look bad again?

All I‘d like is that people dont hate on other people without 100% facts and knowledge of whats going on

[Mainboss]

update in 1hours boiz , check ICQ and Twitter

[Raigy]

I'm not buying any S2 but I love this thread. Azadan really brought the quality level up. Hope you guys get your S2 soon so you can camp lowbies in HP tonight.

[Testouser]

Isnt it ironic that I am the one telling you to NOT make claims about the staff being unprofessional before the time is over?
Or to not simply state that it takes no effort and is easy to do when you habe no idea how hard it is... and in turn make them look bad again?

All I‘d like is that people dont hate on other people without 100% facts and knowledge of whats going on

emm ur the school book here, u must be a teacher or something. i throw up before im done reading all the **** u write kid

[popelatius]

The things I wrote arent my opinion,

the words that warmane staff phrased on the release have a defintion, I didnt make the definition. I just explained what the words mean if you take the definition of the phrase „at the weekend or slightly before“

I said if you freak out before the end of the deadline and say they didnt make it in time... then you are wrong as per definition because there is still time
left. I dont see how it is my opinion.

the weekend is over, mate

[Fyreman]

It is over. =\

[Covetous]

welcome to being jebaited brought to you by warmane

[Raigon]

The WE is over Warmane. Where is the S2 on the shop?^^

[cheffrey]

Telling someone that an update is going to happen, there and that. WIthout doing it.... thats acceptable. BUT doing it without informing us why the update havnt happened yet, now thats bad, very unprofessional tbh.

they did give an update? before the weekend or during? you were asking for more updates when that time frame hadn't even elapsed lmao. You remind me of an annoying child asking "are we there yet" a hundred times during a 30 minute drive

[near69]

? They've been on the shop for like 36 hours now lol they're just below the glad gear cuz they cost the same and its alphabetical

[tricksz]

Lies, ive been checking that.

[Pappascandygirl]

someone might fall for that atleast

[Raigon]

S2 is coming either during the weekend or slightly before.

It is monday. So, whats up with the update? Arent you willing to get any money?

[Ostlimpa]

I reckon now people have a reason to be pissed. = /
As for you Azadon, I am not going to sit and tell you that you are wrong in your reasoning, it is your perspective and it's fine for you to have it. With that said, the Warmane servers quality and great staff does come at a price, a price the donators pay while the other players don't. It hence might frustrate donators that A) They don't take their money and B) There is no reason to donate (in this case a shop update). Normal players might not care all that much, but if the services starts to go down in quaility, mark my words, they will.
Nevertheless, we shall see what happens next.