1. campers spawn killing bodies should have a type of ban for tampering.

    How is it I cant get my quest done because someone is camping my dead body at lvl 80, eventually they go but realistically can nothing be done about this. I understand its fun. Isn't there a point were its no longer fun and your just tampering with another players ability to do anything at a lower level.

  2. Yeah, something can be done. Take a break or quest somewhere else.
    Can something be done against the players? No.

  3. http://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=65037

    "NO SOCIAL MISTREATMENT OR ANNOYANCE
    We prize for a fun enviroment for everybody, meaning all players should follow that philosophy If you dont wish to have your gameplay disrupted by a GM intervention, just play nice and avoid ruining the gameplay of your fellow players. Below
    are some examples of what you shouldn't do!


    Spam/Flood: Using colored text or big Icons in global channels is not allowed. Flooding it with repeated messages neither. Avoid it to avoid being muted or banned.
    Racism/Discriminatory Behavior: Avoid at all costs, insulting someone's country, culture, lifestyle or skincolor. Even if you are just "joking" it isn't allowed. Slangs such as the n-word aren't allowed either, even in Guild chat. Don't blame guildies for reporting you. It's wrong and you should know that.
    Staff Impersonation: Pretending to be a Staff Member either to scam or threat someone is absolutely forbidden.
    Disrupting gameplay: Using minor exploits or poorly designed parts of game mechanics to noticably interfere with other players' gameplay. Examples of such are: Resetting NPCs while other players joust with them on Argent Tournament and joining RDF only to idle and refuse to leave on your own to avoid the debuff.


    This does not include playing according to game mechanics and game design like corpse camping in PvP enabled zones, which is not punishable."

    in short, they can camp your *** as much as they like if your simple enough to keep reviving.

  4. ty for putting the time into this XD

    http://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=65037

    "NO SOCIAL MISTREATMENT OR ANNOYANCE
    We prize for a fun enviroment for everybody, meaning all players should follow that philosophy If you dont wish to have your gameplay disrupted by a GM intervention, just play nice and avoid ruining the gameplay of your fellow players. Below
    are some examples of what you shouldn't do!


    Spam/Flood: Using colored text or big Icons in global channels is not allowed. Flooding it with repeated messages neither. Avoid it to avoid being muted or banned.
    Racism/Discriminatory Behavior: Avoid at all costs, insulting someone's country, culture, lifestyle or skincolor. Even if you are just "joking" it isn't allowed. Slangs such as the n-word aren't allowed either, even in Guild chat. Don't blame guildies for reporting you. It's wrong and you should know that.
    Staff Impersonation: Pretending to be a Staff Member either to scam or threat someone is absolutely forbidden.
    Disrupting gameplay: Using minor exploits or poorly designed parts of game mechanics to noticably interfere with other players' gameplay. Examples of such are: Resetting NPCs while other players joust with them on Argent Tournament and joining RDF only to idle and refuse to leave on your own to avoid the debuff.


    This does not include playing according to game mechanics and game design like corpse camping in PvP enabled zones, which is not punishable."

    in short, they can camp your *** as much as they like if your simple enough to keep reviving.
    Thanks for the effort.

  5. These toxic Horde players are killing 60's in Hellfire Oenisula with their 80's. This isn't PvP; this is harassment. They should be banned for being toxic players. Where else are beginning players supposed to quest but in their starting zone? This is harassment, pure and simple. These people have no real pvp skills so they kill lowbies for kicks. It should be a bannable offense.

  6. These toxic Horde players are killing 60's in Hellfire Oenisula with their 80's. This isn't PvP; this is harassment. They should be banned for being toxic players. Where else are beginning players supposed to quest but in their starting zone? This is harassment, pure and simple. These people have no real pvp skills so they kill lowbies for kicks. It should be a bannable offense.
    This is part of what a WoW PvP server is. Even of retail that happens.

  7. Just because something is legal or allowed doesn't make it right. Ganking is toxic. Gankers ruin the game for oither players. This isn't retail, so the GMs could ban this behavior if they chose to.

  8. Just because something is legal or allowed doesn't make it right. Ganking is toxic. Gankers ruin the game for oither players. This isn't retail, so the GMs could ban this behavior if they chose to.
    You're entitled to an opinion, but it still is what it is.


  9. The whole "that's toxic" idea is toxic. You used to be able to call people out on mistakes and stupidity and they learned from it, now it's all just participation trophies everywhere.
    You don't like what people say? Ignore them.
    Don't like what they do? Well move away from them.
    Don't like it? Well piss off back to single player safe space games.

  10. These toxic Horde players are killing 60's in Hellfire Oenisula with their 80's. This isn't PvP; this is harassment. They should be banned for being toxic players. Where else are beginning players supposed to quest but in their starting zone? This is harassment, pure and simple. These people have no real pvp skills so they kill lowbies for kicks. It should be a bannable offense.
    Again valndrood thinking that hordes camp more than allies. I dare you to raise a horde champ. Then you will come here to complain that allies camp all time. The dark portal is camped by 5 allies all year long 24/7. Thrallmar is a deathzone with allies camping it all the time, and the only reason hordes go on a rampage in hellfire is for revenge. Yes revenge. I had my alt killed in thrallmar? ofc ill log my main and camp your little asses and kill all your npcs lol. Go gear up on rdfs and bgs then be able to defend yourself or play single player games... stop being an entitled little brat

  11. Don't like what they do? Well move away from them.
    Don't like it? Well piss off back to single player safe space games.
    If you've been reading the thread, they're attacking the starting zone for Level 70 characters. Where else are they supposed to level? They have no plave to move away from them.

    I find it funny you mention "safe space" which implies that WoW is unsafe. Now granted, it is a PvP realm I'm playing om and I have no problem with world PvP - 70's fighting 70's and 80's fighting 80's. I got killed by a Horde near my level and that was fine. But these Horde 80's who camp on 70's (or lower) may be fdoing what's permissable in the game, but it's still mean-spirited, cruel, and TOXIC. This is World of WarCraft, not World of RuinCraft. These toxic players are making it hard if not impossible to level. It;'s unfair, it's cruel, and it infuriates some people into behaving the same way when they hit 80, thus perpetuating the toxic atmosphere in all PvP realms. There's nothing stopping the GMs from banning such players - except that I'll bet they woulod lose a large portion of players who only play on PvP servers to grief other human beings. It may be fun for the bully, but it's not fun for the victim. We fight against bullying in real life and online, yet we allow it in a game. What kind of message does that send? "It's OK to mistreat those who are weaker than you." That's a terrible message and it encourages and perpetuates toxic behavior.

    PvE realms don't do well because they don't attract large numbers of players who want to engage in toxic behavior. So people who want to play WoW on servers with large populations have to tolerate bullying, corpse camping, ganking, etc. And if you speak out about it, you're mocked for being "thin skinned" or "weak" and told to take the punishment being constantly dealt outn or don'tr playv the game you love. And you also argue, "Thjat's the way it's always been." You never acknowledge that it doesn't have to be that way, that the rules could be changed. But the GMs and server owners don't want to piss off the toxic people who play on PvP servers to get off on hurting other people. That's just the way it is. They're playing within the legal rules, doingf what's allowed. Slavery was once legal in the United States. The persecdution and execution of Jewish people in Germany before and during World War II was legal; they were doing what was allowed. It didn't make it right then, and it doesn't make it right now/ I expect people to mock me for comparing behavior in an online game to slavery and genocide, but the behavior of these players makes the game unplayable and unenjoyable for other people. Games are supposed to be fun, not infuriating. I've spoken out about this before and I'll keep on talking about it because it's wrong.

  12. Again valndrood thinking that hordes camp more than allies. I dare you to raise a horde champ. Then you will come here to complain that allies camp all time. The dark portal is camped by 5 allies all year long 24/7. Thrallmar is a deathzone with allies camping it all the time, and the only reason hordes go on a rampage in hellfire is for revenge. Yes revenge. I had my alt killed in thrallmar? ofc ill log my main and camp your little asses and kill all your npcs lol. Go gear up on rdfs and bgs then be able to defend yourself or play single player games... stop being an entitled little brat
    There are toxic players in the Alliance and I'm sorry you suffered because ofb their behavior. But how does going out and ruining the game for people who have done NOTHING to you make up for what has been done to you? It just perpetuates the cycle of hate.

    I'll be honest here: I too went on a eampage with my 80 against Horde starting zones in Azeroth because I was angry. I engaged in the very toxic behavior I speak out about. THAT is how damaging this behavior is, that it incites otherwise peaceful players to become the thing they hate and to bully other players.

    Toxic behavior in Horde and Alliance players needs to stop. I honestly don't expect a single thing will change, but if one person reads this and decides not to camp lowbies because they don't want to be a bully, that can make a difference in a lot of other players experience on this realm.

  13. I actually dont go to starting zones and neither do i kill low lvls when i do go on a rampage.. I kill all you fcking campers again and again until you leave. Thats the difference between us, and you camping low lvls then coming on forum to complain about world pvp at lvl 80 is just a sign of your character...

  14. ...but if one person reads this and decides not to camp lowbies because they don't want to be a bully, that can make a difference in a lot of other players experience on this realm.
    If you haven't learned by now, all you're going to do by posting these things is encourage people to camp lowbies. Yeah, "toxic" whatever whatever. You're turning this into something way larger than it is. People don't bully, rape, and murder each other because they camp lowbies on a WoW private server. The world doesn't suck because people camp lowbies on a WoW private server.

    I'm telling you man, if it hurts your feelings that much you might need to take a leave of absence and go get some help.

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