Miltiboxing.

[kuroimato]

Which is something all PvPers seem to strive for

Also if that was true then all BG's would be filled with only MB which is not the case

[Urabi]

Oh holy ****, stop crying.

If its not for mutliboxer, you guys would find and blame a new enemy target within 5 minutes. Its like you desperately want to complain and find THE enemy.

Same ol', same ol'.

[OhieMitzen]

No, I never have, and I never will, because I don't find it fun, so why should I? If you think that is the correct logic, unfortunately it is not. Like I said, you don't have to experience everything first hand to form an opinion about something. Have you ever tried to touch the Sun? Have you not? Then why are you so sure that it's hot? Have you ever driven an F1 car? Why are you so sure it's difficult? Have you ever tried to kill a bear with a gun? No? Then why do you think it's easier than killing a bear with a knife? Should I continue?

You may not like something, doesn't mean others wouldn't. Others stepping on your toes with their fun isn't going anywhere, welcome to MMO. The difference is if you're gonna hang on into it, it will only do yourself harm. Take the loss, and move on. Don't know why people are so fixated on the negatives they make all kinds of efforts to dwell on it further. A bit of rumination going around.
I've never driven F1 car, but it's easy. Trust me. I have no desire to try it, but I can say that it's easy. You haven't tried MB, but you say it's easy. See your own flawed logic?

Another example of flawed logic. In both of my cases we had a total of two people. And if we keep this in mind and for more clear example assume that there is no other people on the server right now, we will see the whole picture where player 1 suddenly has x5 resources in his hands compared to player 2. And this is unfair on the level of player vs player.
In your case, however, there are more than two people in total, and even if it makes it unfair from player 2's perspective, objectively it's not unfair because everyone is only using x1 amount of resources at the time.
At the same fashion being ganked is not unfair if characters are more or less on the same level. If it's 80s is ganking a 40s it's obviously unfair. If 40s is ganking a 38 or 41 it's fair. Because both players have roughly the same amount of resources.

So multibox is OP, only when you remove everybody else from the scenario and edit it further to prove your point? But WG isn't 1v1 battle, neither is WSG, and rarely is wPvP either. It's a team vs team.
Okay then, let's limit it to two accounts, not two players, two accounts. One is relatively fresh 80 with up to few relentless pieces. Other is older player with (donor) BiS PvP setup (could even be one of the MB characters you so hate). Of course there's not much the lower geared one would manage to do. And that fight would be called unfair, and the donor would be complained to be too OP. This is never ending "it's not fair" debate. There's always somebody with the advantage, that's PvP, there's always bigger fish out there. People will always complain about the bigger fish out there. It will never end.

This only applies to multiboxers who for some reason think that if they want to multibox, then everyone else should accept it without question, but when someone says they don't want to play with multiboxers, their opinion is considered unimportant. You see what the problem is? I and many more people don't care if people multibox. Just the fact that someone is playing with a few windows opened at the same time is not make us lose our sleep. They can do whatever they want with their life. The problem is that they can do whatever they want when they want, but everyone else is forced to play with multiboxers without a choice. You can't go to some other WG without multiboxers when they can choose if they going to multibox or not.

Replace multibox with higher level (ganker)/donor/bis/better geared/skilled player. You'll see MB is just one of the bigger fish in the pond with the smaller ones.

[velgaa]

Wait til you see the alt-tabbers. I personally find them more toxic that multiboxers. At least you can root multiboxers, aoe stun them, aoe fear them, knock em off wherever and it all falls apart.

[Drunkuser]

Yes, multiboxing is cheating, unfair, and ruin the quality of the game. But nowadays they are rare and most of the time manageable.

Be happy that they were nerfed heavily time ago, and you didn't experience the old times.

Of course one can still hope that someday the limit will be set to 1, at least in pvp.

[kuroimato]

Yes, multiboxing is cheating, unfair, and ruin the quality of the game. But nowadays they are rare and most of the time manageable.

Be happy that they were nerfed heavily time ago, and you didn't experience the old times.

Of course one can still hope that someday the limit will be set to 1, at least in pvp.

Rare? Every WG I met al least one multiboxer. And after it ends it's almost 100% that some will come to the base to gank people.
After reading your post I came to WG to check if there are any and that's what I saw lol:

Totally "fair" 20k dmg instantly, I wonder how could anyone react to this.

[Arbiterone]

Rare? Every WG I met al least one multiboxer. And after it ends it's almost 100% that some will come to the base to gank people.
After reading your post I came to WG to check if there are any and that's what I saw lol:


Totally "fair" 20k dmg instantly, I wonder how could anyone react to this.

A warlock could've put multiple dots at you aswell, and slowly watch as you agonizingly run away attemtping to save your life. Then, as you stop somewhere you deem safe to attempt to heal yourself, he reappears, out of your camp of vision. He reapplies the dots, and at that point you just give up and accept your inevitable death.
Would it be unfair? Maybe, but it's part of the game. I wouldn't stand somewhere full of enemies if I was worried about dying.

I also hold grudges against multiboxers, whenever I see them leaving me an opening I use it to annoy them. Sometimes I can even get them all killed if the characters aren't super geared. It's just one of the many things you will find in this weird game world.

[kuroimato]

Be happy that they were nerfed heavily time ago, and you didn't experience the old times.

I replied to this on the first page, but I can repeat my point.
Even if something used to be worse than it is now, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to make it even better now. We used to live in a cave and eat raw food, but now we live in comfortable houses and eat tasty food. These houses and food are not perfect, but should we stop trying to make them better?

I think not.

And at the very least I wanted to get some answers from another side, but all I got so far was "stop crying", "youre stupid lol", "it's the same as ganking".
The last one is the funniest imo. The guy above didn't even understand why it's not the same, even after I tried to explain with an example. But somehow their position is valid. I cannot accept this.

[kuroimato]

A warlock could've put multiple dots at you aswell, and slowly watch as you agonizingly run away attemtping to save your life. Then, as you stop somewhere you deem safe to attempt to heal yourself, he reappears, out of your camp of vision. He reapplies the dots, and at that point you just give up and accept your inevitable death.
Would it be unfair? Maybe, but it's part of the game. I wouldn't stand somewhere full of enemies if I was worried about dying.

I also hold grudges against multiboxers, whenever I see them leaving me an opening I use it to annoy them. Sometimes I can even get them all killed if the characters aren't super geared. It's just one of the many things you will find in this weird game world.

Ughh. NO! It wouldn't be unfair! That's the point! If warlock would kill me with dots that would be just a regular pvp. He killed me using using the available resources that was given by the game. Yes, even if he was in a top gear and I had no chance of winning. It's still fair because I still can get a better gear by in-game means to balance out this fight and kill him. Not to mention warlock dots not instantly kill you thus giving you a window to react to this somehow. Some classes can outheal the damage, some can put a shield etc.

Of course some classes are obviously better than others but it's a balance problem which is more or less manageable. I mean a good player can kill a better geared player with lower skill sometimes. That's how it works.

On the other hand every multiboxer not only is using x5 resources for himself, but doing it with a third party software which is for some reason are not counts as botting, while it's clear as a day that it's impossible for a human to press so many buttons on multiple keyboards at such short period of time. Compared to warlocks dot what could I possibly do versus 5 DK insta casts? I died in a second without any chance to heal that damage, shield it or anything else. It's just not possible. Just stop pretending that MB is not cheating when it clearly is.

[kuroimato]

Why my video got deleted?

[Kruschpakwins]

I knew most of the german multiboxers on retail wotlk who played 5 characters and I don't remember many having >50% winrate in arathi or warsong, it was better in av and eos but the most basic flaw in you logic is that you're supposed to beat them alone. Let it be premade vs premade and the multiboxer becomes a 50 dollar/month liability. Your argument has grounds in world pvp but thats about it.

[kuroimato]

I knew most of the german multiboxers on retail wotlk who played 5 characters and I don't remember many having >50% winrate in arathi or warsong, it was better in av and eos but the most basic flaw in you logic is that you're supposed to beat them alone. Let it be premade vs premade and the multiboxer becomes a 50 dollar/month liability. Your argument has grounds in world pvp but thats about it.

I'm not talking about winrate. Winning or losing bg is of course important, but not that important compared to pvp experience itself. I know there are some people who doesn't care about anything but winning or losing, but some people like me care more about the process more than the outcome. And even if multiboxers have questionable impact on outcome they completely ruin the process for anyone else. Why should I build a team dedicated specifically to oppose multiboxers every time I want to visit bg? Why one guy with 5 accounts and a botting software is allowed to force me to play the game the way I don't want to play, but when I want to force him to play the game the way he don't want to play it's suddenly a big no no?

[Obnoxious]

Because of this:

• Multiboxing - Our policies regarding multiboxing aren't up to discussion. If we decide to change them, we will do so of our own accord. We are more than aware of any and all arguments you might want to make about it.

[Derbba]

No way to argue with person who has set their mind allready. If its so hard to play with multiboxers, maby you shouldent play here, or you could try some of the awesome single player games around. Maby they will fit you more, with no other exploits or multiboxing either. There are also alot of co-op games similar to wow.. But maby you just dont want to do the leg work and just want to complain. In my mind this thread has gone too long allready.

[wadwwqw]

I'm not talking about winrate. Winning or losing bg is of course important, but not that important compared to pvp experience itself. I know there are some people who doesn't care about anything but winning or losing, but some people like me care more about the process more than the outcome. And even if multiboxers have questionable impact on outcome they completely ruin the process for anyone else. Why should I build a team dedicated specifically to oppose multiboxers every time I want to visit bg? Why one guy with 5 accounts and a botting software is allowed to force me to play the game the way I don't want to play, but when I want to force him to play the game the way he don't want to play it's suddenly a big no no?

Mind you, 'anti mb team' would require you a toon or two with AoE CC in your team. I will let you figure out what those could possibly be. In my experience multiboxing could be beneficial for av, in all other bgs they suffer tremendously. But then again does it matter if you are against full bis premade group or 5m multiboxer? At least I know which one i'd prefer to face.