Hello, i recently got banned for ninja looting in raids, and want to appeal,but i dont know date of the raid i got banned for,dont know for what aswell , i have screen recorded every raid and can show evidences, but how do i know for what i show it? Because i can send ban appeal only every 30 days and i dont know how it works, for example if i send it will i get answer for what particullary i was banned for and date of raid and etc? and then i can appeal by sending video?
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ninja loot ban
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Forum Veteran
Go through the videos. Look for moments where you say "It's not for X's class, I'm giving it to Y instead. That's probably what got you reported (and banned). I'd start from the most recent ones.
Wild example:
Your loot rules were simple "MS>OS, BoE + primos res, SFS free, MS change allowed". At the end you rolled the loots. You state "MS https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50019". Fury Warrior rolled highest for it, an UDK rolled 2nd highest, but you decided to give it to UDK instead. This is where you broke your rules.
GM's won't tell you what exactly got you banned.
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I had only moment when standard enhancement shaman(full attack power,not a single weapon for spellenhace/trinket/had sts and other melee dps trinket) rolled for cts and stated he is spellencha ,however considering his full gear and talents he wasn't,and also i was telling to pm ms change and he didnt write anything,is it even possible to get banned for this?However this was only 23 hours ago and i dont think that i could get bann
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ed for this that fast
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By reading this message I can say it is ninja looting.
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Forum Veteran
It could be. Usual ticket time on reports isn't that long. Last 5 or so tickets I've sent were answered within 24 hours.
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There were 0 messages from him that he is spellenha, he had 0 spellench items, 2 standard ench bis weapons , in all raids ppl that roll on spellench (specific spec that can roll both mdps and rdps items) are announcing at start,ms changes were announced.
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I'm not sure why you keep bringing this up about "MS changes." It feels like you don't know what that means. He was playing the Enhancement specialization. Whether he was using what you call "standard" or "spellench" doesn't change that his specialization (the "S" in "MS") was the same. He had no reason to declare an "MS change" because his Main Specialization for the rolls was still the one he used in the Raid.
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So as enhancement you can roll for anything then? let it be any cloth items,trinkets that give spellpower ,etc ,and any melee item,tiny abomination,sts,cts,dbw,etc? like any item that gives spell or physical damage.
Why then Hpalas can't roll for CTS they can proc its buff and also contribute from haste,same do rshamans,and other heals.
Or they can roll for it without changing spec?
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There is also possible to do enhancement tank,saw in some raids,so i can roll tank/spell/attackdamage items for enhancement? i have no reason to mention this because its Enhancement,and there are possible variations as tank aswell.
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Your making situations up because you're mad you got banned. no, enhancement does not have prio for tank gear like an actual tank. They can't tank. End of that subject. No, they can't roll on w/e they want. Stop trying to be passive aggressive
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why enhancement full arp+attack power they can have prio over cts then?They dont come as spellenhancement,like 0 from spellenha,and roll for it without telling anything?
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Well tbh, he has a point. While I understand Enhancement and Spellhancement fall into same spec (as Obnoxious said few posts above), I kinda find it odd that a player has effectively right to roll two quite different item sets as MS. What's next, FDK rolling MS on 2 handers, because within spec. Combat Rogues rolling daggers, just because they even have talent for it?
Poor PUG leaders having make so intricate loot rulings that some smartass can get them banned. At what point it becomes system abuse?Edited: June 26, 2024 Reason: format
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What if he wants to change the type of Enhancement he was using? Should he drop his best gear and be less useful to the raid for the sake of "having the right" to roll? It would be one thing if he tried to roll for both "standard" and "spell" items/stuff he already had better, but that wasn't the case as far as has been stated.
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So u want to say that shamans have the more prio over all other classes, because others can't go both spell or attack power using one spec. Spellenhancement is not standartised build and there are many others,for example Morbius DK,that uses 1.8 mitrius or terenas, its quite popular too,but not as popular as standart fdk or udk,but if he comes,he can roll all this items without specifying it? I was in many raids done by very huge guilds and enhancement pugs always wrote their ms elemental to roll for caster items,though by your words they could just write nothing and roll everything.
You didn't answer why then Hpalas and Rshamans need to change their spec to roll for CTS,though it gives most prio stat to them(haste) and they can activate its proc.
