Blackrock TBC crossrealm fiesta

[Twofpsx]

whatever you say bro, doesnt change the fact we on Onyxia do not agree with being intercepted by a little to no effort realm into our pvp bracket. Yes pve items should never be available on a pvp realm if it crosses over to a realm that can get them the legit way.

You do not have a pvp bracket. (Unless oneshotting lvl 30 players at Nesingwary camp is your idea of a pvp bracket)

[verksm]

The reality is that you are angry for investing yourself in the game, while others can be just as well equipped as you with much less investment. But in the story, it is you who decided to level up your character and grind on the game. No one put a knife to your throat. You can't blame the pvp player or those who manage this server. Do you want more people on the server? This is the solution, otherwise, in a few months no one will pvp on your server and there will only be bots who pex and guys who do the same dungeon over and over again and you will be fed up too. Now when you say that you don't need us, PvP players on Onyxia, well that's just your point of view, don't make your case a generality. World of Warcraft is a game with many aspects, and there is something for everyone. Everyone has their own experience with the game. World of Warcraft was never a game based solely on PvE content.

Well no, actually it is the other way around as was seen over the last years, TBC arena players do not want to and cannot sustain an active instant pvp server, they need and want fresh servers and a realm pool with a lot of casual / pve players on top. Every instant arena only server for TBC in recent times has been a massive failure. Probably not even Blackrock could manage to stay alive on its own for TBC, at least that would be my guess based on recent TBC releases or how the pvp community behaved if you exclude the one exception which was hard carried by Chinese arena players.
Which is why there is zero point in insulting or flaming pve / casual players as you depend on them to make Pvp a success in this expansion.

[Blakeatron]

whatever you say bro, doesnt change the fact we on Onyxia do not agree with being intercepted by a little to no effort realm into our pvp bracket. Yes pve items should never be available on a pvp realm if it crosses over to a realm that can get them the legit way.

XD

1) This benefits Onyxia the most because without this cross realms queue system, the arena scene will be almost inexistant on it and anyone who would want to play pvp will be forced to go on blackrock. Even without blackrock being on tbc, the arena scene will be dead pretty fast anyways on onyxia, especially after season 1. The vast majority of pvp players do not wanna bother leveling and raiding to play. This just always happens on pve oriented realms like onyxia and you just gotta look at the bg activity currently on the realm to realize it, you need a lot of players queueing daily to make the scene active.

2) For blackrock it also brings more people in queues, which is always appreciated, mostly in bgs I'd assume as blackrock players are obviously more interested in arenas than bgs and onyxia players will most likely be more invested in bgs than in arenas.

3) Its not unreasonably skewed towards any serv imo. The way it is gonna work means if you have a lot of free time as a pvp player you should go on Onyxia because you will gear up faster than blackrock players, you can actually expect many players who would have never played on the serv to play on onyxia bcs of this. Sure some beginners in arena on onyxia will cry that they have to face better players than them from blackrock (maybe they should make onyxia players start at a slightly lower mmr) but the reality is that it's either this, or 1 month of active Qs before you have to start waiting 30min for a bg and having to face the same 3 teams in arenas for the rest of the year.

Well said.

Guys, you had a great vanilla Onyxia experience. This TBC experience is meant to be different, in multiple ways. WotLK will also be different. If you want a PvP scene that doesn't die out, adding in blackrock is the way to do that.

Having PvE gear on blackrock will make ***LITERALLY 0 DIFFERENCE*** in your ability to climb rating. Especially at the end of the season where pushing matters. As stated before, blackrock players will not obtain these PvE pieces until weeks into the season since we need to wait until we go through enough flushes to get the PvP gear first.

PvE gear makes way less of a difference than you're implying it will. You're just mad because you have to spend the time to raid on a weekly basis, and we can just focus on arena. If you want that same setup, go roll on blackrock. If you actually enjoy PvE'ing, stay on Onyxia. The impact of PvE gear being available for blackrock players is literally negligible, and you would know that if you actually play/cared about the game mode enough to have seen this in the past.

[Micmengodx]

Provided this happens, is there any possibility of onyxia characters teaming up for arenas with blackrock ones? e.g. I have a char on onyxia and want to play with my friend, but he only has one on blackrock

[Blakeatron]

Your question was directly answered on previous pages, you posted in here after not reading the thread, and now you're fuming? Yikes buddy.

Also, it's not "Provided this happens". It's confirmed happening. As stated several times by mods in this thread.

So again, read.

[Butkus]

Provided this happens, is there any possibility of onyxia characters teaming up for arenas with blackrock ones? e.g. I have a char on onyxia and want to play with my friend, but he only has one on blackrock

no you can not group or play with players from blackrock if you are on onxyia only q into them doing arenas.

i think the solo arena Q will be for blackrock only as well. just a guess.

"he" did not answer your question because he wants to distract you

[verksm]

no you can not group or play with players from blackrock if you are on onxyia only q into them doing arenas.

i think the solo arena Q will be for blackrock only as well. just a guess.

"he" did not answer your question because he wants to distract you

Given you can already be matched with and against players from all Wotlk servers including Blackrock, Icecrown, Lordaeron no matter where you queue from and they all have a solo queue NPC spawned I do not see any reason to believe it would be different for TBC Blackrock and Onyxia.

Of course crossrealm party play besides Solo queue also does not work on either Wotlk server.

Though I still believe solo queue should not even be implemented for TBC as it is one of the worst game modes possible for arena in Wow.

[warmane959]

1) and you just gotta look at the bg activity currently on the realm to realize it, you need a lot of players queueing daily to make the scene active.

Its the dead end last phase of vanilla, of course the server pop has dwindled. you never played onyxia back in January-May with <1 minute BG queues.

this entire ****ing thread is bad faith arguments in favor of Blackrock.

[verksm]

Its the dead end last phase of vanilla, of course the server pop has dwindled. you never played onyxia back in January-May with <1 minute BG queues.

this entire ****ing thread is bad faith arguments in favor of Blackrock.

Anyway, we going into TBC, it is the era of arena, BG times are over.

[Butkus]

Given you can already be matched with and against players from all Wotlk servers including Blackrock, Icecrown, Lordaeron no matter where you queue from and they all have a solo queue NPC spawned I do not see any reason to believe it would be different for TBC Blackrock and Onyxia.

Of course crossrealm party play besides Solo queue also does not work on either Wotlk server.

Though I still believe solo queue should not even be implemented for TBC as it is one of the worst game modes possible for arena in Wow.

you can not play with or group with blackrock players for arena only play agsint them/ q into them
the mods have said that more then once.. thats not a good thing.
my point for solo q.. blackrock players will have it onxyia players.. i would say no.

people still run 2v2 in wrath right?and that entire bracket was scrapped what 15 +years ago by blizz MLG + other esports and titles were never allowed again after s5..for 2v2. solo q is the least of the issues when it comes to arena.

[shlax]

PLEASE DO THIS merge blackrock tbc and onyxias pvp

[brengelson]

Now with the official TBC date announced, does anyone know when exactly Blackrock will open after Onyxia's release? 2 weeks?

[pootang6969]

Now with the official TBC date announced, does anyone know when exactly Blackrock will open after Onyxia's release? 2 weeks?

Hopefully 1 week.