I'm sure that you are able to figure that out on your own.
Mean while I enjoy beeing the hybrid class with the highest dmg output in the game ;-)
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I am not saying something is bugged at least is about settings of the class, bug is something that work improperly but the settings as they are are lacking behind other melle dps and generaly is the game that you should enjoy overall not douing researches about how to improve it to peak so at least you will touch tail of other melles is about fun in first place and playing only top classes again and again only so you can be includet in whole game is boring .You want change after so many years of playing wotlk cause wotlk is best patch ofc but the issue si not with any class what you chose at least for those who want to play less prefered specs so you dont have much of choice.I have couple of other chars like druid lock etc but there is no problem like this as with shamans:D and also other less prefered classes bm hunters destro is also good for pve but nobody want it prot wariors arcane mage to but that is questionable fdk were mention to but i saw a lot of fdk with SM what did hell of dmg.
Edited: December 7, 2024
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Can you link your armory? Then we can tell you what you can improve.
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Just out of curiousity I have checked the PvE ladder for the fastest kills in ICC 25 hc. On half of the boss encounters the fastest kill was made with a Enh shami in the raid. Also on Festergut which is mostly a DPS race. These records are all from this year...
Compared to that there is not a single boss where a resto druide or Frost DK was used.
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You understand that the video you provide makes no sense?! It's not hard at all to finish with 14.5k with enha shaman in LOD 30%, but the question actually here is why rest of the classes in that raid massively underperformed (be cause of lower gear or something else) so enha can boost to rank 3? :) On top of that the video is 7 years old, so even I don't recall anymore what script were during that time but pretty sure something was not really correct with many classes.
However, compared to OG 3.3.5, as far as I'm aware there are 2 bugs with enha shaman on Warmane that actually doesn't really contribute negatively on dps with T10 gear:
1. Lighting Weaving doesn't work which is anyways not taking advantage from while 4P/T10 is equipped cause of the set bonus
2. You can still use 2 x Rank 10 Flametongue on Warmane where you should not be able to use same rank for both weapons, instead you should use Rank 9 + Rank 10. In this regard on Warmane you should do slightly more damage but not something hugely noticeable.
... and yes those 2 things are not Classic changes but legit OG mechanics.
PS: The last time I've tested those 2 mechanics was before about half year and they still didn't work correctly, so if something got fixed already, you are free to correct me.Edited: December 7, 2024
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Are you shure that it was enhacement not spellhance?but still this is not about me but about everyone who plays shamans :DDi dont have any problems with rotation stats or gems orderly ofc is not biss only 5.6kgs come back here after 2 years i was on offi so its lacking a lot of thing better weapons and so on but i know a lot of people what have a lot of experience with enhacements and spellhance specs and tryied i can say everithing gems trinkents talents etc but he has to example 6.1 spelhance and on halion he did like 9.8k dps and dk and warior with same gs and also item lvls 12-13k dps so in db hc 25 he was in 8 place i thing before him as ussual wars dk retri crogue sh priest mage around similiar eq +-100gs but he was left behind other melle like 2-3k dps always.
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@vsetoq
I agree that a video is just a snapshot.
However, enh were also used on fastest boss kills in 2024 on 25 hc mode so we can say for sure that the spec is more than just viable.
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Just check it yourself. Some are using spellhance gear, some normal enhance gear. Both deal almost equal single target DPS.
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Because Ele/Enha/Spellhance deals more damage than restoration shaman, and you need a shaman for Bloodlust/Heroism to enable fast kills.
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That's exactly it.
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You always need hybrid classes for their buffs. Otherwise they wouldn't have any purpose for the raid because it's not like they can compete with ttw fire mages or fury warrs in DPS.
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Point is that enhas being in top timer raids is not an indication on performance of the spec itself, rather a logical outcome of raid setup, like 2 heals, solo tank and stuff like that.
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I get your point but you can say that about pretty much any DPS that isn't a Fmage or a Fwarr.
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topic is that enhas are underpowered due to a mechanical circumstance(intended or a bug) and other opinion was that they are all fine, most op spec in game actually, people just dont know how to play them because pressing 4 buttons is hard as hell and only like 5 people can do it
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Who was claiming that the spec is OP?
My point was that enh is all fine but most ppl don't know how to play it properly.
Let me quote icyveins on this:
"Enhancement Shamans are possibly one of the most difficult classes to play properly, but have an incredibly high ceiling when played properly. The non-intuitive Spell Power + Attack Power gearing strategies throw some people off, but when set up properly and played to the fullest they offer incredible single-target, and some of the strongest passive AoE + cleave in the game."
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