Frostwolf Decommissioning

[Obnoxious]

You enjoyed all your time playing in that server for all those years without any monthly cost. It's the "reward" of playing a game itself.

You weren't doing a job you were hired for or getting fired and eligible for a "severance pack."

[Budz22]

After years of grinding raids and gearing on Frostwolf, shutting the realm down feels incredibly unfair to the community. Outside of banning win-traders and botters, there hasn’t been visible effort to support Frostwolf or rebuild its population. The server had real potential if the Frostwolf community had been looked after like WoTLK servers.

Many of us specifically enjoy Mists of Pandaria. We don’t want coins or a free level boost to move to an earlier expansion we want MoP. It also didn’t feel like there was a genuine plan to repopulate Frostwolf.

The only GM who consistently showed engagement was Nobuemon, who actively worked on bug fixes and achievement points for those who farmed them. Please keep the coins and boosts; what we’re asking for is proper support—or at least a transparent, player-first plan for MoP.

I’m confident many players would agree.

[dpsrobert12]

So the "reward" was getting the awesome opportunity of playing on the furthest-from-retail experience any mists of pandaria server could ever give...huh...but oh wait, theres more! Nobody forced us to play or donate, henceforth nobody should ever feel grateful for having that playerbase or the donations that came with it.

[Obnoxious]

Of course we are grateful for any donations made to Warmane - not to Forstwolf.
All Warmane players should be as they are what keeps all our servers running.
It's why donations receive Coins, as a sign of that gratitude.

[dpsrobert12]

Not grateful enough to show it, in my humble opinion.
In no universe should everyone receive the same "rewards" while contributing so differently.
You're literally giving players who barely even touched Frostwolf the same things as someone whove been active, participated and still stuck around when **** went south.
Calling this entire situation unfair would be an underreaction to say the least.
What triggers the most is not that we werent expecting this, its that we were being assured it wont happen, so we kept playing and trying to make the best of it, since we STILL had our hopes up, even after all that time.

[jmsvanbuskirk]

Maybe it was just low population. Although, and not making assumptions, but the climate around private servers may have made an MoP realm a liability right now. Also could be that the developer working on it may no longer work at Warmane. There could be reasons deeper than just a decision made on a whim.

[Obnoxious]

But you were doing all that for yourself and your enjoyment. It wasn't a "favor" for us or some "duty" you stuck with despite not wanting to enjoy Frostwolf anymore. You're asking to be rewarded "more" because you had more fun. Does that really sound valid?

Either way, despite all the fixes and tweaks over time that made the server fairly playable, if quirky and still needing more work, it reached a point where it gets a fraction of what Blackrock does in active players, instead of attracting new people. We held on, perhaps longer than we should in the opinion of many, but it got just unsustainable. That's the reality of it.

[dpsrobert12]

At this point im meme-ing about the rewards to be fair, in the 10long years that ive played on warmane i really do believe that if i wanted to ever play WoTLK i would've had the mental capacity to do so.
What is valid is that we were being kept assured it wont close, while also throwing in fixes once in a while(especially in the last few months since there were major ones). This was thought through for quite some time as you've mentioned, so why make the announcement 2 weeks before the close? Even when youre quitting your job you gotta give a 3 weeks notice, lmao. Im gonna assume you speak on behalf of the staff while replying to us, if there was really grattitude anyone couldve set an official message on the main page announcing the closing of Frostwolf, and atleast 1month notice. THAT wouldve showed real grattitude and thoughtfulness, we're all humans and we understand running a server has its cost and this is a business, therefore if it doesnt profit its pointless, but that does not mean you gotta wipe the floor with us, regardless of the fact that its 50 people or 200.

[Obnoxious]

If it all gets down to you wish we had announced this longer than two weeks, fair enough, we can apologize if the decommission felt hasted and you wish you had a couple more weeks with Frostwolf.

[dpsrobert12]

Refusing to acknowledge their mistakes even in the final moments of frostwolf, thats the staff we respect and so dearly love!
Keep the apology and keep your so called rewards, no player with self respect would ever accept this. Tho i can only speak on behalf of myself.
I dont have any problem with closing the realm, but atleast do a proper burial and dont piss on its grave.
Since y'all dont care about community feedback, atleast care for your own image.
Actions speak louder than words, anyways. And today's actions said more than enough.

[penrypooch]

Sad to hear about Frostwolf being decommissioned but understandable given the population. In this instance I would have liked to see Warmane co-operate with a competing MoP server operator so that the die-hard Frostwolf players could continue their journey with another operator.

I do have a couple of questions and would be grateful for answers:

1) What is considered "active" in terms of being eligible for the free level boost for Onyxia? I have logged into Frostwolf today, am I "active"?
2) How will this free level boost for Onyxia be delivered to players and will there be an expiry date on its use? For example, could someone use it when Onyxia is in the WotLK phase and receive a Lv80 boost (once that service is available, of course)?

Thanks.

[Mercy]

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We could offer you the world on another realm. As much as I feel for those that played consistently - if I'm to be completely honest, I find it much more likely you'd find another mop server to play on. And if we offered the world to everyone who played on a realm we decided to shutter, what good would that do? Nothing to work for on a realm that you don't likely even want to play on to begin with? You see, I realize this isn't about you getting enough out of it, but rather being bitter about the shuttering of the realm. Which is understandable, especially given players, like Ravek, wanted and expected more to come out of the realm - which we've disappointed those players. Loss is never easy to deal with. It won't be helped by getting gifts, because you've still lost that which you care for. So what would be the point? It's better, in my honest opinion, to shutter it quickly and not make a fiasco out of it, and let it be what it is. An unfortunate discontinuation of a realm that will disappoint the majority of the players who still played on it. There's nothing else to be done.

[Allylilith]

Would it be technically possible to keep the armory page up for frostwolf? Just displaying whatever the state of the 1st october will be.
I think it would be nice if people who invested a lot of time and have a lot of memories with their characters could be immortalized in that sense. Being able to still look up the chars you had with the achievements and mounts you had would make them feel no longer playable, rather than deleted, which would feel a lot better for many people.

please, if possible, consider doing this, so that people can nostalgically look back to the good times they had on frostwolf for years to come

[Budzy21]

I dont get why yas are shutting it down when there are people that still play & raid on this server, despite the lack of Staff doing anything to keep the server alive what about the 1s that kept the server alive for yrs on end without the help of staff all we get in return is a lousy lvl boost thats so POX!

[dpsrobert12]

@mercy.
I unironically agree with you on the most part, nothing anyone could offer could possibly compensate for the time/braincells/money lost.
However, what couldve and shouldve been done in the first place was to handle it properly.
I aint trying to be bitter, if you'd read all ive commented so far you could see that ive been trying to rationalize it from your point of view aswell(being a business and all). And with all due respect dont give me Ravek as an example, ive been singlehandedly raid leading and guild master-ing the only living guild on the server for the past 5 years, and this is why i believe i, by myself, have the most objective say in it.
What happened today just made the Frostwolf community lose all the respect for warmane, seeing how this was dealt with. You want it to finish quickly and without fiasco while realising there are people whove been playing here and are nostalgic about it.
Yes, it wont be helped by receiving "compensation", but it would be helped by receiving the respect any community deserves