1. How much longer do we have to wait for the point system to be implemented?

  2. ok so we should keep collecting the points? i was trying to buy some gear for my mage because finding good gear i can send to him is impossible.... so youre saying that ill be able to buy things with points again soon?
    just curious and want to make sure im not sitting here trying to collect points for nothing

  3. This gives me encountered feelings, but as far one of the main is how stupid people can be here.

    1- Stop talk of Lordaeron, point store WON'T be there.
    2- Stop put Cata and MoP, in the middle of the discussion, this is WOTLK.
    3- Pay attention to the part 'via points' of this sentence: "It will take a while to get these items. Approximately 1.5 to 2 years to fully gear up via points if you maintain your activity rank (TBA)"
    4- This is a free to play server if you put money in your game is your problem, but personally I'm grateful if you did so many non-donors can still play. Doing threats or saying this server will die because of this little free-to-all implementation makes obvious that you are new (1-2 years max) on this server. Veterans will know this perfectly.
    5- So I can put money, get free items, and raid/PVP without problems. But I spend time being active and get a higher ilvl item by points is totally against the rules. Stop whine and show your skill beating the donators. And being honest if they don't put items, very few could give money considering the state, and also speaking of WOTLK the best income for money has one word: Shadowmourne... and maybe also these few ones: instant full wrath gear.
    6- "This will ruin the economy" If you think that is true, you haven't seen the 95% "BoE primos, recipes, Xitem reserved" runs that end usually in ninja attempts, or wiping miserably. Just to sell them later on for coins thanks to our nice coin market or the general one. There's no economy to rescue in Deathwing nor Ragnaros, is already -and probably- broken forever.

    That is for the fun thing I've found around... Now what I find interesting is...
    Ok point store no more mounts or pets (for a while?) That will be also applied to the coin shop? The 310% mounts are godly considering that the server scripts of hcs, Naxx and Ulduar are... bad, to be polite. Seems Tempest Keep will have a hard time or farm now oh but for sure "Mount reserved-ninjaed"

    I agree with the unfair option of delete old gear either for twink or "transmorg" that is inaccessible. Being nax 40 the best example. If you are going to delete items, pets, and mounts, be sure that they -in the best scenario- are accessible in one way or another. But let's face it, time ago it was "2 years to end Eye of Eternity." Already been 6 years when I read that line and attention was sent to other expansions. Another point of unfairness is delete the recipes, you could have at least warned or gave us a tip "We will make recipes unavailable, so get some with the points we will reset as well." This gives me a worse expectation of how you all plan things.

    But well not everything is gray. Personally I like the idea of using my points of activity in an item that will actually help my raiding though Lvl i271 is indeed high... I would suggest ilvl258 (icc10-togc25 for the less used to this kind of references) But again, did we have a chance to give our opinion? Not really considering that everything is planned already. And here I find the best way to cut bad raiders and skilless people; guilds. The gear doesn't mean you will have a decent amount of skill to play well considering the teamwork needed for certain places, as well every guild will probably kick any player that fails at tactics or does very low DPS. (A good example today was a BiS hunter PvE doing 13k DPS... instant kick, you get the idea...)

    People should stop going into global raids with 10 to 20% of the items reserved and join a guild that suits their time-loot distribution, you will find yourself almost full geared in much less than 2 years of VOTE POINT USAGE, and learn to do a very good game there . Just this last thing wins my entire respect because now I can get an item just being active and put good use... After all, you will use it for your own fun-display, less drama, and more DPS! Keep calm and run to the tank.

    Before I used the vote points to gear alts... seems it will be really hard considering the small amount every week and the price of the high Lvl items. But I wonder why not just put the items of HC 10 icc anyway? They're at -nearly- the same level than icc25 rs 25 normal versions, because if BoE items won't make the cut, a good change for the Blood Queen Choker for casters would be the necklace of DBS 10 HC. Now in a more selfish way: Shut up and take my vote points! I want that WFS HC! :D
    +10000

    People have went to extremes in saying PvE is dying but in reality it wont lol

  4. This gives me encountered feelings, but as far one of the main is how stupid people can be here.

    1- Stop talk of Lordaeron, point store WON'T be there.
    2- Stop put Cata and MoP, in the middle of the discussion, this is WOTLK.
    3- Pay attention to the part 'via points' of this sentence: "It will take a while to get these items. Approximately 1.5 to 2 years to fully gear up via points if you maintain your activity rank (TBA)"
    4- This is a free to play server if you put money in your game is your problem, but personally I'm grateful if you did so many non-donors can still play. Doing threats or saying this server will die because of this little free-to-all implementation makes obvious that you are new (1-2 years max) on this server. Veterans will know this perfectly.
    5- So I can put money, get free items, and raid/PVP without problems. But I spend time being active and get a higher ilvl item by points is totally against the rules. Stop whine and show your skill beating the donators. And being honest if they don't put items, very few could give money considering the state, and also speaking of WOTLK the best income for money has one word: Shadowmourne... and maybe also these few ones: instant full wrath gear.
    6- "This will ruin the economy" If you think that is true, you haven't seen the 95% "BoE primos, recipes, Xitem reserved" runs that end usually in ninja attempts, or wiping miserably. Just to sell them later on for coins thanks to our nice coin market or the general one. There's no economy to rescue in Deathwing nor Ragnaros, is already -and probably- broken forever.

    That is for the fun thing I've found around... Now what I find interesting is...
    Ok point store no more mounts or pets (for a while?) That will be also applied to the coin shop? The 310% mounts are godly considering that the server scripts of hcs, Naxx and Ulduar are... bad, to be polite. Seems Tempest Keep will have a hard time or farm now oh but for sure "Mount reserved-ninjaed"

    I agree with the unfair option of delete old gear either for twink or "transmorg" that is inaccessible. Being nax 40 the best example. If you are going to delete items, pets, and mounts, be sure that they -in the best scenario- are accessible in one way or another. But let's face it, time ago it was "2 years to end Eye of Eternity." Already been 6 years when I read that line and attention was sent to other expansions. Another point of unfairness is delete the recipes, you could have at least warned or gave us a tip "We will make recipes unavailable, so get some with the points we will reset as well." This gives me a worse expectation of how you all plan things.

    But well not everything is gray. Personally I like the idea of using my points of activity in an item that will actually help my raiding though Lvl i271 is indeed high... I would suggest ilvl258 (icc10-togc25 for the less used to this kind of references) But again, did we have a chance to give our opinion? Not really considering that everything is planned already. And here I find the best way to cut bad raiders and skilless people; guilds. The gear doesn't mean you will have a decent amount of skill to play well considering the teamwork needed for certain places, as well every guild will probably kick any player that fails at tactics or does very low DPS. (A good example today was a BiS hunter PvE doing 13k DPS... instant kick, you get the idea...)

    People should stop going into global raids with 10 to 20% of the items reserved and join a guild that suits their time-loot distribution, you will find yourself almost full geared in much less than 2 years of VOTE POINT USAGE, and learn to do a very good game there . Just this last thing wins my entire respect because now I can get an item just being active and put good use... After all, you will use it for your own fun-display, less drama, and more DPS! Keep calm and run to the tank.

    Before I used the vote points to gear alts... seems it will be really hard considering the small amount every week and the price of the high Lvl items. But I wonder why not just put the items of HC 10 icc anyway? They're at -nearly- the same level than icc25 rs 25 normal versions, because if BoE items won't make the cut, a good change for the Blood Queen Choker for casters would be the necklace of DBS 10 HC. Now in a more selfish way: Shut up and take my vote points! I want that WFS HC! :D
    Learn something rather than opportunistic, donkey.

  5. Learn something rather than opportunistic, donkey.
    Yet you still can't make any real arguments.

  6. omg when the shop will come up like rly its so annoying

  7. omg when the shop will come up like rly its so annoying
    When it's ready lol

  8. It is very funny and ridiculous, Imagine that when someone get fully gear though vote shop, and tell others check out my GS, i can carry you guys in RDF, but always remove from 25 raid.

  9. It is very funny and ridiculous, Imagine that when someone get fully gear though vote shop, and tell others check out my GS, i can carry you guys in RDF, but always remove from 25 raid.
    Yeah from 1.5 to 2 years to do. Which is a long freaking time. Again not an argument. Please tell me you have a REAL argument :L


  10. The way in both situations the items are obtained is vastly different. On one hand you were a top tier raider in the vanilla days so you deserve to be one of the few with the item. On the other hand, you kept clicking "collect points" for a couple of days and now you get to be one of the few that got an unobtainable item ingame pretty effortlessly.
    I fail to understand how that should qualify as a reason to remove old enchants that have little-to-no impact on gameplay from players who have already obtained them.

  11. Wtf there will be no mounts?
    On the first page if you read what was said that they will likely return into the future. They are prioritizing gear over cosmetics.

  12. It is very funny and ridiculous, Imagine that when someone get fully gear though vote shop, and tell others check out my GS, i can carry you guys in RDF, but always remove from 25 raid.
    you keep making it sound like everyone's gonna instantly be full normal gear within next couple of months.... I mean srsly 46 days per piece is not fast. xD it's not long either. It serves the purpose just right imo

  13. do i care about being active on a hellish buggy server? no i dont.
    give ur time and u get ? bugs, exploits. more time more bugs, exploits. Ty.
    Hype about Lordaeron + working on point shop does not fix bugs.
    Keep wasting ur times. good luck.

  14. I don't see why they removed gear below 200.

    When I am leveling alts, I try to gear them okay so they can quest and PvP without dying too often. Some of my alts can make gear, but not everything (or some gear really needs a lot of different and hardly obtainable mats not worth farming to make something that will be useless in 10-15 lvls).

    So I generally was gearing my alts so they weren't in "all grays" and eventually bought one or two things from point shops so they could be decent.

    But that won't be possible, now. Pity.

    On the other hand, it might mean that there will be more on sale on AH?

    Not sure... We'll see.

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