Am i a noob or what is this **** ?

[zzadr]

I love the attention u gave me.

WTH noto. LOL
I stopped reading his/her post long time ago. (only the first line on this one)

[Synx7]

WTH noto. LOL
I stopped reading his/her post long time ago. (only the first line on this one)

Interesting

[Styrak]

@ synx7 i find it amusing how you have a reply for everything, as the guy who posted your armory links said...get over the fact that you're bad at this game and start learning
have fun xD & get rekt

[Nasty]

Lol.. this thread. So much stupidity [not directed @op btw :D]

How can a hunter instant crit a 170k chimera shot or a boomkin just pressing 2 dots of his/hers and instantly wrecking my pala with about 400k hp

Hunter damage is indeed op.. I just did a bg with my hunter to verify to make sure I wasn't full of ****, or that it wasn't fixed yet, and I was able to get a decent amount higher then 170k chimera without berserking buff. Just trinket proc, weapon proc, and orc racial. Boomkin however, cannot wreck you with just 2 dots :P what you got wrecked by were back to back instant cast star surges. In bg, most boomkins [that know enough about wow to at least use macros] typically roll with a dot swapping macro to dot all targets so they basically only have to dot and starsurge. smarter ones also use a focus targeting macro with starsurge focus to make sure all starsurges go to the same target until they die. rinse and repeat. smart boomies are deadly af in bg.

full griev dk, got hit by chim shot for 240k, lately after the update from what i seen dot/bleed do insane damage, especially feral bleed.

yea, that's about how much my hunter can hit for. as for bleeds, i know warr bleeds are too high. i've personally been victim to some deadly feral bleeds but my boomkin only has 504 feral gear so i haven't really done any testing myself so i won't argue despite what i've witnessed.

And hunter dmg is lower than it should be;P

That 170k chimera was with zerk + burst, cause with no zerk or burst chimera crits for 70k to 100k and it is a 9 sec cool down spell and that is pathetic compared to other classes, to add to that retail huters did more dmg with chimera then what they are doing on Warmane.

You your paladin is not full gear, don't know why you complain, you are almost full tyrannical + some grievous top kek, you think full geared characters should do less dmg on you? how would that be fair to them?

so much stupid. 1: i hit 235k in bg without berserker or any bg related debuffs on my target, which is weird because that's my pve damage basically lol. though i usually do hit just over 100k, which is NOT less then retail, it's accurate. 2: why do all of you think that a full geared player does more damage to a lower geared player? so long as the player has all resilience bonuses, and the attack [ie: chimera] ignores armor, you'll lose a larger % of hp from high geared player, but the exact same number, unless i'm having a dumb moment and missing something lol

Try it then talk, I bet you couldn't kill a wabbit.

Hunter has healing debuff which has to applied, taking a GCD and costing focus, while rest of the classes apply it automatic.
Hunter has CC that cant be hit or it breaks unlike mage warrior dk rogue etc that keep you CCed and kill you before it ends.
Hunter has 2x stuns with 3 sec duration but has to choose one or another gg.

And on top of all that, lowest dmg of them all

Braindead right?

1:rest of classes huh? riiiiight.
2: since when should you be doing damage to the cc target anyway? lmaoooo.
3: hunter has.. scatter, trap, pet cc [which can be: stun, sleep, snare, silence, disarm, u name it.. though, crane ftw], silence, knockback, slow, more slows, more slows, 2 interrupts via fd/camo. all on short cd's. ANDDDDD you choose to qq about a stun/stun/sleep talent for even more cc lmaooo. a hunter can lock down their focus target better then anyone else.
4: low damage? yea, cuz hunters tend to have the lowest dmg in bg's/arena matches.. yep =/

hunters are op bro?

i'm 90% griv and got hit 400k by a destro lock without any major buffs like berserk or flag buff etc
also...lets not bring up the warriors / rogues that basically rape u in 1 rotation in under 5 seconds if you have no idea what you're doing

the first comment.. that would have to be shadow burn, not chaos bolt. shadow burn is hands down the most op finisher in the game, but no class is op cuz of finishers, just op at stealing kb's :)
and to the second comment, any class can rape you in under 5 seconds if you have no idea what you're doing :D warr's are a bit easier to avoid, rogues, scary af with their cooldowns if you don't know what to do, i agree :D

Don't even get me started on Wild Quiver bug that double procs , off everything. I almost got 2 shooted by hunter in arena yesterday. Chimera, Glaive toss = 28% health. gg

i have 37% mastery on my hunter [10 more w/ mastery buff, and more with buff stacking ofc]. so basically 1/2 my arrows will proc wild quiver. however, the bug is a bug that existed on retail, where crows procs mastery when it was not intended to. during crows, wild quiver is op. but that's on blizzard, not warmane, unless it still persists after we update to 5.4.8.

aside from the binding shot and intimidation stuns, the rest of the ccs are canceled on hit? (kinda ruins your 11 second cc there honey) this kinda gives me the feel you didn't even reach 1k, or if you ever did reach 2k it was either on a pve server OR getting carried

cc is meant for your focus target mostly, which if i may add, should not be getting hit......................................... yup

if they time their bladestorm right they faceroll you before you get the chance to activate deterrance

lawl at all the warr's using bladestorm. it's only op vs. nabs. it won't faceroll without other offensive cd's, and if they're dumb enough to use those, u got defensives for a reason, which u shouldn't have wasted if u knew they still had recklessness.

rogues have a skill called "burst of speed" that pretty much allows them to break any root and sprint their way up to the enemy's a$$ 100% of the time , AND their slow poison is more of a pain in the *** than any other slow provited by the hunter

doesn't break roots. i disagree with the pain part. melee will hate hunter slows more, not the rogues, since they still get to fight the rogue.

paladin well, i only played one for 5-6 years but i think freedom + offensive bubble wings does miracles

i'm going to assume u didn't mean freedom and bubble at same time. and the way it seems, it's that you're wasting bubble cuz ur slowed [though you have a spell outside of freedom to remove slows], and you're wasting wings because bubble reduces damage by 50%. though i may be mistaken on how you meant that you use it.

Isn't that interesting. The easiest, and most OP class doesn't have a single player in the top 50 (excluding the 50th rank). I wonder what the reason for that could be. But wait there's more.

1: a class being good in 3's, doesn't mean it's good, it means it's good in 3's.
2: warmane pvp brackets cannot intelligently be used in any argument. half are win traders, exploiters, etc. and the ones in top.. well over half aren't even 2k rated, which shows just how unplayed it is. all this says is, less hunters have patience/friends, to do 3's here.
3: a class being easy to play, doesn't mean it's op. it means, if you have a room full of nabs, the easy to play classes will be up top in terms of damage/ranking/etc. in a room full of skilled players, that often changes.

In all the Blizzcon's hosted, there has only been one Hunter that has won.

and 0 priests/rogues/monks
1 mage
mostly warlocks and healers {we all know majority of those shamans/druids were healers lol]. warlocks have always been op with fear in 3's, alone with spread pressure.

on a final note, retail... i'm spriest. here, full grievous on every class except my pala that i'm currently working on [dps specs only], so i'm not trying to defend any particular class. i have the most fun on my aff lock since priest is old to me and it's a dot class just like priest. same reason i love ferals, boomies, uh dks, etc., but i'll admit aff lock is op in 3's, no defense. :D

[Auron1102]

the guy probably got hit by Chim shot while he was carrying orb in Temple of kotmogu

[zzadr]

Also known as Temple of Hunters.

[-Notorious-]

Just going to point some final things out, far too lazy to quote/reply to every stupid thing raised in this thread.

Chimera shot damage is working completely fine. I don't have the link here, but if you guys are interested, I will post you a link of all the hunter formulas and you can feel free to test them to your heart's content. I won't comment on why Hunter's are doing worse here than they were on retail, because it involves me talking about other classes which will, undoubtedly, lead to a ****storm.

@Nazty. Please stop saying people at the top are win-traders. If they are, then back that talk with some walk, and go report them. I assure you, many people (myself included) have no lives and check who is win-trading while at work. This is a very lame excuse to use, I'm pretty surprised to hear this from someone who claims to love PvP as much as you do.

Also how in the world is patience related to Hunters? Are you telling me rolling a hunter makes someone less patient to sit in queue for 3v3? That has to be one of the stupidest things on this thread, and mind you, Synx has been on top of his game for providing top notch stupidity material, so you've really pulled off quite a feat.

And this ladder is inactive? I recall you played on Cataclysm here before molt-down, so you can't seriously believe THIS ladder is inactive compared to the ****ty ladders we have seen in the past. This is the single most active ladder for 3v3 I have ever seen on any private server, ever. Take a look at how often the top players are playing 3v3 arenas, and that too against new players. Furthermore, I have run into excellent teams (shoutout to "The Money Team") during night when server barely has people on. Removing arena teams was one of only two positive changes MoP brought (other being PvE item downscaling of course) and its effects are being shown by the activity of our 3v3 ladder.

Furthermore, no-one implied easy classes are OP. It was implied that hunters are easy AND OP. The logical implication then would be to say that if hunters are easy and OP, they should dominate the 3v3 ladder, since:
a) they are easy, so more players can understand this class than other classes
b) they are OP, so they should outperform others.
It follows that if hunter's aren't even breaking top 50 in 3v3 one of the two things below must be true:
a) hunters are a difficult class or...
b) they aren't OP as was claimed, rather they are underperforming
If this is too hard to understand, then I'm afraid nothing else will be sufficient proof for you... (just fyi, hunters made up 18% of the top 5000 players in 3v3 on retail during this patch and MM was the third highest DPS spec after Arms Warrior and Frost mage)

[Asylahleet]

Learn how this game works.

[Watamote]

Also known as Temple of Hunters.

Hehe yeah. I love ToK as hunter. Grab an orb, grab Beserker buff and just hose down the enemy team. The other night my arcane shots were doing 175-200k and I'm only ilvl504 yet.

[Furiz]

I'd like to see those 170k chimera with no burst or zerk buff, that would be awesome ;)

Meanwhile in reality...

[Spiritbeast]

i would like to voice my opinion here since i play all classes

Warr in mop is a joke....i reached 1.5k rating with my 480ish warr with a healer, and most of the time i had no clue wt i was doing... partly cuz of warr-powah and partly cuz hw terrible pvp players r here... I mean , i love it when they trinklet stormbolt just to eat my fear+lolstorm+executes....but again even if thry save trinklet, its no use cuz by the time they trinklet a warrs fear, they r pretty much executed....not to mention if the warr takes warbringer and shockwave abilities, u better alt+f4 cuz theres no surviving a reckless warbringer charge,stormbolt,fear,shockwave,executes....so yea doesnt matter if ur opp is skilled or not, u just need a warr to win most battles..!!!

As my main is a hunt, yes hunt is just op..i can kill pretty much anyone except a destro lock that knows how to boost its hp and spam rain of fire +felflame and shadowburn me.. but especially murder of crows and stampede heal <3 Bring it on fellas.... but on the underside,any skilled rog,pally,totem dropping shammies,feral,balance can kill a hunt... so yea,hunt isnt completely OP..btw warrs are jokes against hunts since stampede fix!!

But u guys seem to forget another op spec , frost mage... Nova bomb,2 FoF,time snap,lance lance , time snap lance lance , instant FFB---DEAD... now tell me how one can even survive this if they dont bubble?? dnt forget deep freeze is still on cd....if a frost mage misses this, it can literally juke till pet nova is up + frost bomb = definite kill....

Ferals, i just cant define its flexibility than a warrior... 3x sprint, instant roots, maim, bash, cenarion ward, auto crit heals,combat invi spam in incarnation,feral step... wt else do u need to win lol...feral is just missing a bubble and ice block... oh wait, symbiosis <3

Apart frm all these 4 ,every class, every other spec need skills to play right...And fellas, yes rogues need skills too to burst and pressure correctly..

But if u r set on crticising hunts for chimera+ glaive spam... do consider these spams--
warr- slam,overpower
pally-crusader,tv
feral-mangle,rip
frost mage- icelance,FFB
rog - dispatch,eviscerate
boomie-rejuv,instant starsurges
ww-srk,karma
destro-felflame,shadowburn
affli- here only one button, instant dots and run behind a pillar to rofl.

So from my overall perspective, every class and every spec is given with spammable skill sets, u just have to be skilled to recognize them and play them right ... but still,warr is a dumb class..

p.s: Warmane dks arent in my list cuz if u lose to a dk here regardless of frost or unholy; just quit pvp, if possible wow!! u r that bad!!!!

[Meche]

p.s: Warmane dks arent in my list cuz if u lose to a dk here regardless of frost or unholy; just quit pvp, if possible wow!! u r that bad!!!!

This hurts my little DK's heart :(.

[cujo]

i just made a new hunter to level up, my pet one shot everything and every npc at my level plus a few higher, all i did was send pet attack dead, i don't even need to use arcane or any kind of shot.
i wonder what will happen when i reach 90, would i still be able to pet attack one shot pvp player, i haven't try on player yet, so far only npc.

[cujo]

p.s: Warmane dks arent in my list cuz if u lose to a dk here regardless of frost or unholy; just quit pvp, if possible wow!! u r that bad!!!!

i don't know what you're talking about, the only thing im afraid off is a pro rouge, that can stun/stun/stun and kill you in one shot, the rest of you i melt you like ice pro or not.

[Spiritbeast]

the only thing im afraid off is a pro rouge, that can stun/stun/stun and kill you in one shot

u said it urself, a pro rogue.. it is scary ofc and thats wt makes pvp that much more fun, isnt it!