Vote points

[Filipemr]

And heirlooms, why they've been removed from the point shop?

[Artemizija]

All good stuff was removed :/ xD

[Gigibecali]

oh, the feeling of buying something after every 29 points gathered.

[Ghinbedi]

First i want to make clear, i am glad you removed all those gears. I support this decision.

But what i am furious about is, decision was taken too fast.

And since you removed all those gears, you should bring back the old point shop, which contained Mounts, ulduar recipes.

What i am asking above is, just bring back the old point shop.

And i will like, if everything is transparent between players and staff, like it was after molten was down.

ppl have been requesting old stuff from the old VP shop for months, it's not gonna happen

they've already said VP doesnt benefit the server, wouldnt be surprising if they axed it all together

prepare for more cuts

[Deepfearr]

i wasnt expecting to see max 239 ilevel gear. thats why i keep considerable amount of point before flush. when i searched on forum no info about max. item level after reset. only info about was kaer's opinion regarding with dbw. so this is another story why doing major changes on website figure with lack of info. facepalm..

P.s. when lordieron first released point shop policy published 1 tier behinf the current progress. now icecrown ciditel >>>> ulduar.

[sigurds]

I totally agree, the new system is complete ****. Without deception, mount, heirlooms or whatever, there is no reason to spend VPs anymore. I believe that you should be rewarded just a LITTLE bit for being a loyal player to the server (considering it took more than a month of voting to receive something).
It's not like you would find a player with 2-3 items from the shop, AND IF YOU DID he would have seriously spent 3 months of voting every single day in order to get that, in what world would such a loyal player not be rewarded? It wasn't unfair or unbalanced, it was brilliant.

/Sincerely a donor

[Stonemade]

I totally agree, the new system is complete ****. Without deception, mount, heirlooms or whatever, there is no reason to spend VPs anymore. I believe that you should be rewarded just a LITTLE bit for being a loyal player to the server (considering it took more than a month of voting to receive something).
It's not like you would find a player with 2-3 items from the shop, AND IF YOU DID he would have seriously spent 3 months of voting every single day in order to get that, in what world would such a loyal player not be rewarded? It wasn't unfair or unbalanced, it was brilliant.

/Sincerely a donor

What voting are you talking about? I don't see voting banner anywhere, do you?

[Mercy]

I totally agree, the new system is complete ****. Without deception, mount, heirlooms or whatever, there is no reason to spend VPs anymore. I believe that you should be rewarded just a LITTLE bit for being a loyal player to the server (considering it took more than a month of voting to receive something).
It's not like you would find a player with 2-3 items from the shop, AND IF YOU DID he would have seriously spent 3 months of voting every single day in order to get that, in what world would such a loyal player not be rewarded? It wasn't unfair or unbalanced, it was brilliant.

/Sincerely a donor

First, being a donor shouldn't be an issue here, as donors are rewarded for donating. Second, you should be rewarded for playing on the server? Really? The fact that you don't have to pay a monthly sub, or buy a copy of the game in the first place, or the huge amount of players who benefit from that, don't mean anything to you? I guess not. We should provide even more free stuff on top of what we already do.

[Skuddy]

I totally agree, the new system is complete ****. Without deception, mount, heirlooms or whatever, there is no reason to spend VPs anymore. I believe that you should be rewarded just a LITTLE bit for being a loyal player to the server (considering it took more than a month of voting to receive something).
It's not like you would find a player with 2-3 items from the shop, AND IF YOU DID he would have seriously spent 3 months of voting every single day in order to get that, in what world would such a loyal player not be rewarded? It wasn't unfair or unbalanced, it was brilliant.

/Sincerely a donor

so much work, i feel sorry for your poor finger for clicking that button once a day to collect points.

[Neiras]

as long as they dont remove that sweet t8 for my transmog im fine

[sigurds]

The previous system promoted a much more passive and less time-consuming playstyle, which is what a highrate server is all about if I'm not misstaken? Do not forget that without F2P players this server would not be worth a rats *** with more than half of its population gone (especially since they are the ones making bgs fun :ppPppPP) so do not get cocky now.

[magaginho]

The previous system promoted a much more passive and less time-consuming playstyle, which is what a highrate server is all about if I'm not misstaken? Do not forget that without F2P players this server would not be worth a rats *** with more than half of its population gone (especially since they are the ones making bgs fun :ppPppPP) so do not get cocky now.

You're already allowed to play for free. The server has no obligation of providing you free stuff of free features whatsoever. They grant you access to a game where you have to pay a monthly fee in order to do so and that's the greatest thing you'll obtain anywhere. The server rates were changed and the server is no longer a high rate server, therefore, you'll be in need of more time and more grinding as well.

The F2P players are leeches in general since 90% of those players have the need of being toxic and rant about this and that when they're having everything handled to them thanks to the actual players that contribute to the development of the server through their donations. It isn't an issue of getting cocky it's an issue of creating a balance that many old school players didn't have as well. If you want to live in the fantasy that the server wouldn't live without the F2P players I'll have the pleasure of reminding you that at the end of the day the ones who help the server maintenance costs are the donors and they're the ones who kept themselves around when the scenario went black for Molten.

Instead of wasting your time making this kind of posts, trying to make people believe that you and the others deserve and must obtain free stuff, invest that time in-game and actually start grinding as you're supposed to and therefore start doing what the game was designed for.

[sigurds]

A bit long to quote but;
Of course the donors are in the end the ones that are the biggest contributors but without the F2P players there wouldn't be a server, and less reason to donate, as you would have to do it for just staying equally geared.
F2P and donors are co-dependent, without f2pers the server would not reach this size (Which imo is for the better) and without the donors there wold ofc be no one to pay for the server costs.

A game like WoW has one of it's biggest cornerstones in the community. If you don't have a rewarding system for the players who want to play "legit" in order to keep up just a little bit with donors (which there are ****loads of), I believe we will see a decrease in these loyal f2p players who are the ones that I would prefer in comparison to a constant change of f2pers. I'm not saying shove free stuff in peoples hands, but a month of voting for a non-heroic item isn't really doing that.

Well, I realized even before I began that it wouldn't be changed now I'm more curious in other peoples opinion, since I was really sure that most people would react like me. I also believe that a discussion doesn't kill anyone : )

[sigurds]

I have to correct myself also: I didn't really ask for the old items back, but adding a mount or something cosmetic for 1-3 months of playing on the server, which doesn't affect the balance in game but is a rewarding system, both for loyal f2pers but donors aswell

[magaginho]

A bit long to quote but;
Of course the donors are in the end the ones that are the biggest contributors but without the F2P players there wouldn't be a server, and less reason to donate, as you would have to do it for just staying equally geared.
F2P and donors are co-dependent, without f2pers the server would not reach this size (Which imo is for the better) and without the donors there wold ofc be no one to pay for the server costs.

A game like WoW has one of it's biggest cornerstones in the community. If you don't have a rewarding system for the players who want to play "legit" in order to keep up just a little bit with donors (which there are ****loads of), I believe we will see a decrease in these loyal f2p players who are the ones that I would prefer in comparison to a constant change of f2pers. I'm not saying shove free stuff in peoples hands, but a month of voting for a non-heroic item isn't really doing that.

Well, I realized even before I began that it wouldn't be changed now I'm more curious in other peoples opinion, since I was really sure that most people would react like me. I also believe that a discussion doesn't kill anyone : )

Errrhm no. You're wrong. Players who have never donated are in a small number considering that most of the community has made a donation in order to skip the so called queue. When I joined this server back in 2011, there were no such features and the amount of BiS toons running around was ridiculous. I've obtained all of my gear through constant grinding and raiding. If the players like me were able to do it why can't you? Because you don't have the time for it? World of Warcraft is a game designed to be a huge time consumer and a game that requires a lot of grinding. If you can't fit yourself under this two crucial points you shouldn't even play the game in the first place. Obtaining a non heroic piece just means that you're progressing without effort, sweat and tears. You're literally just obtaining an item from a raid that you don't even know how to do it, for example. Is that fair to the ones who applied commitment into it? No. It isn't. You want your free gear without sweating? Go ahead and donate then because at least like that you're helping the server.

Debating this all over again won't change anything and here's the crucial point that the so called F2P need to understand;

The game was designed for you to repeat the raids provided over and over in order to.obtain the better gear possible. The game was also designed to be a time consumer while dgoing that. And about the vote points? You weren't even voting for anything since Warmane hasn't been in the lists of the "top private servers" for a good while. You were being offered points and obtaining free items as a gift from the staff and as everything, this offer also had an end. If you truly can't accept this simple fact I don't even want to imagine what kind of riot you people would do while playing on the official server where they don't give you a single item offer at all.