WotLK Charred twilight scale OR Dislodged foreign object

[pivara]

Which one is better for pve Shadow priest wotlk, im using Phylactery of the nameless lich and i dont know what to use for second ?

[jendah]

Which one is better for pve Shadow priest wotlk, im using Phylactery of the nameless lich and i dont know what to use for second ?

Scale is the best trinket.

DFO is better than PotNL.
see: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....t-BIS-trinkets

[DarkenedHue]

Scale is the best trinket.

DFO is better than PotNL.
see: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....t-BIS-trinkets

My math in the OP there was slightly off.

The interval between DFO procs is ~60 seconds (45 sec ICD, ~15 sec average time to proc), and the interval between Phylactery procs is ~103 seconds (100 sec ICD, 3 sec average time to proc), so both trinkets provide somewhat comparable spell-power.

There are a number of reasons PNL could work out to a higher DPS gain, though.

1) Bloodlust/CD's.

PNL's massive 1207 spellpower proc for 20 seconds is amplified tremendously by cooldowns like bloodlust, much more so than DFO's proc, which only stacks up to 1210 spellpower in its final 2 seconds, and gives you an average of only 665 spellpower with each proc. Priests running with PNL will be having their initial burst boosted by more than 500 spellpower over DFO Priests.

2) Fight durations.

Due to the fact that DFO only gives you an average of 665 spellpower each time it procs, you always end up having to wait for a 2nd DFO proc (i.e. an even number of DFO procs) before it catches up to PNL in value. If a particular fight ends at a duration where you had gotten an odd number of DFO procs, DFO would be behind PNL.

For instance, let's say you have a fight that lasted a duration of 2:35 mins. (155 seconds total).

You get 2 PNL procs - the first proc at roughly 0:05 seconds (due to time taken to apply DoTs), and then a 2nd proc at the 1:48 mark.

At the same time, you would only have gotten 3 DFO procs. The first at 0:15, the second proc at 1:15, and the 3rd at 2:15.

In this scenario, the 2 PNL procs will have yielded you a total of 1207 sp for 40 seconds, which completely decimates DF0's ~665 sp for 60 seconds.

A lot of the earlier encounters in ICC last somewhere close to this auspicious duration of 2:00-2:30. This is why you so often see superior results with the Phylactery in the earlier fights.

And then on top of the complexities described above, there's also other considerations like how 172 crit rating weighs up against 172 haste at various gear levels. So sadly it doesn't seem nearly as black and white as looking at average stat values on paper and then making a decision based off of that.

[michaelfloyd3]

Not sure about DFO vs PNL, but Charred is better than DFO for sure. Got one for my priest.