OK so WLK point shop is released first, my comment is : fair and well designed
so 264 weapon and trinket is released, with 29point equals to approximately 1 month of point collection.
In the meantime lower gear became trash (239 and lower price doubled, there is no point to buy)
This seems reasonable, a normal player can get 264 trinket and weapon with point, this will be very helpful for their game play.
because 264 trinket can be rather difficult to get for example the "Death Bringer's will" and "Abomination in a jar"
it's not BIS, but player can equip those in the "Final Fight" such as 25H lick king and 25H RS.
so, in WLK, 264 weapon and trinket is a bonus, I like this idea.
But in Cata and MOP.... Oh my god
in cata the highest gear in point shop is 372, that is the 4.1 content, In the meantime, 378 gear from 5H, from fireland is very easy to get, in fact, 378 equals to 245 gear in WLK, (Fireland<>TOC), so when determine price of point shop. One should not do the simple Math and get the price. it should follow retail tier and make a match.
239 in WLK = 372 in CATA = 509 in MOP
245 in WLK = 378 in CATA = 522 in MOP
258 in WLK = 391 in CATA = 545 in MOP
264 in WLK = 397 in CATA = 550 in MOP
277 in WLK = 410 in CATA = 566 in MOP
284 in WLK = 416 in CATA = 574 in MOP
this is the match.
so
now
264 in WLK with 29 point
372 in CATA with 37 Point
with 372 gear, you can't even join a DS NORMAL pug raid! 372 will be replaced very soon once you get 378 and 397.
over 1 month of point collection = 1 piece of replace in 2 days gear? this is totally not reasonable.
my suggestion is
make the same tier gear with same price, it can be slightly higher, such as
CATA
397: 37 point
MOP is even more crazy
476 gear is not even ok for TOES pug raid, let along TOT
and need 46 point, 1 month and a half for a trash? i dont understand.
from my point of view , now warmane decide that point shop item should hard to get and more valuable, then make a fair standard for all realms.
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The Cost logic of Point shop
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Field Medic Moderator
Not all of the gear in-game is available yet on MoP. We'll update the marketplace similarly to how Wrath is done when that gear is available. We don't have any desire to redo the MoP marketplace multiple times as gear is released. That will come in time.
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My point is
264 in WLK is good gear, not bis, but good. 26 point
476 in MOP is trash(even for now, not the future,please understand JP can buy 489 and VP can buy 522, 476 is trash, simple fact) 46point
i understand there will be better gear than 476 coming... but the price is very wired(Way to high). if one have to collect 46point (for 1.5 month) for a 476
how many should he collect for a "good" gear?
the point is , WLK player, CATA player, MOP player, they all are warmane subscribers
there is no point to make CATA and MOP player feel unfair for this
if wlk player can collect point for a month and get a decent piece, so should CATA and MOP,
not like now"collect for 1 month and a half, only find trash in store"
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Wut ? You lost me there.warmane subscribers
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OK agree, but what abou Cata realm?...whould should we do with that trash gear?
Just to make it clear, you can buy better gear from AH with 1.5k gold.
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I'm sure the prices of the better gear would be adjusted accordingly.
I don't know, so I can't comment. I'll ask though.
Edit: The top ilvl available is 372. That's pretty high for free gear, don't you think?
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372/371 but PvP from 4.2 patch, 359 for PvE from 4.0.3 patch is low, perhaps it would be better 372 / 379 item level from BoT HC and BWD hc or 378 item level from Firelands and Justice points.
Only items with 372 are cloaksEdited: October 8, 2015
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I just figured out, to get any transmog gear on MoP I need 20 points, that means around 10-20 days collecting points for transmog. Before you could get it in 5 days. Why would transmog cost that much if we can not even farm it in-game?
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Im all for being thankful for free gear but really there isnt a point to buying the gear from the cata point shop. The 372 gear is pvp gear that is worse in ilvl then blues in the auction house that cost about 1k gold. You can get a full set of that 377 blue gear for an hour or two of farming or doing dungeons. I think at the very least they should have firelands normal gear available in the point shop. Its not too strong but also not so useless that nobody would want it. I'm not here to argue about the new system or how it works. Just making a suggestion to keep the point shop balanced across realms
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haha what? according to whom? do yall even play on your own servers, does any of you have any clue on how gearing on your realm goes?
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what you don't realize is that the VP marketplace was never intended to be a focal point in gearing your characters, it's a nice addition and small help when it comes to items, but don't count on it being your main way of getting gear, what I and many others would like to see however is the marketplace have a lot more low lvl items added, like WOTLK, BC, CATA and vanilla greens/raid items for transmog, since you cannot get most of them in game, and before you complain that it's too much work for just having a different model on your gear I want to say that transmog is a big deal in WoW, so it might as well get the attention to match it
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So the moral of this story: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1KP4dN6N9Z...ndle-truth.jpg
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I only used points to buy transmog, pets and mounts, however its impossible not to see that warmane itself wishes for the whole point shop concept to change to a more direct way to gear your character, in face of those changes we can all agree that its not balanced between realms, to me it doesnt matter that cata and mop have higher ilvl items than wotlk it should not influence on the prices as each realm is separated from each other, they should consider only the tier that each item occupies on each expansion, exactly as OP said
Not only that, I too want that transmog (even BOE itens, some are really cool) come back to shop, as mounts and pets, and that the prices be equivalent as it were before, not that insanely high prices they came with
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Perhaps, but his point is still valid.
Wrath gear available is 25 man normal tier 10 gear - end raid gear.
Cataclysm gear available Heroic Tier 11 (equivalent).
The question is: why do wrath get end game gear in the point shop, where cata gets early, low gear to buy.
The fair representation of this would be tier 13 gear that would be end game 25 man normal gear, which would then be equal to 25 man end game wrath.
At this moment, they are not equal in tiers.
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372 is high? lol
377 craft gear is out there.
do you understand what craft gear mean?
it means hundreds of gold per 1 piece
either cheap-useless gear for transmog(like before), or expensive---good gear(like WLK realms) is reasonable
High priced trash gear(like CATA and MOP now) is really awful.
