WotLK BoE items!

[SujanIsBlack]

People say that you are allowed to need on BoE items so i thought why not ask the ones who knows. So my question to you is very simple, Are you allowed to need on BoE items, no matter if you need it or not?

[sampiks]

Let me make it simple

Dungeon:
Press need if you need it for MS ( spec you came to dungeon ). If you need it for OS, say that you need it for OS and press need. Press greed/DE if you need it for money, AH or any other reasons
Raid:
Raid loot rules are based on raids leader. Traditional pug rules are that you /roll for MS ( spec you came in raid) or when its time, you /roll for OS ( spec you didnt came to raid). Some specific rules may be applied from raid leader. For example popular is that some BIS trinkets are rolled only by TOP DPS or there are some minimums DPS to be allowed to roll. But these things realy depend only on raid leader

[SujanIsBlack]

Is that just what you say, or do you have rules that backs you up? If not then please, can someone who knows the rules about this tell me and show me where it's written!

[Skuddy]

"Because of increasing number of ninjas in raids we decided to step forward and enforce new rules. From now on players caught in act of ninja during a raid will be banned.
Please bear in mind that best way to avoid ninjas is common sense and raiding with trusted players or guild.

What qualifies as raid ninja?
- Master Looter taking items that were not reserved or giving them to players that did not win, unless it's 2nd highest roll when winner had no use for the item (rogue rolling on caster trinket).
- Changing looting rules during the raid, after it has started.
Example: You joined a raid that was being advertised as one with no reserved items and after first boss raid leader says that he reserves item x from last boss.
- Player exploiting game bug to bypass master loot. In such cases it is best if master looter would fill report that shows player leaving the raid and empty loot window.
- Player need rolling (group loot) on items which he cannot even use.

DO NOT report on Staff's visitor pages. Do not open threads.
If you have been victim of a NINJA in raid please send the following information via IN-GAME ticket:

Name of the ninja
Date of the incident
Screenshot(s)1*
Screenshot(s)2**
Screenshot(s)3***
Screenshot(s)4****
Brief explanation

Screenshots have to be unedited.
Recorded evidence is optional but will be heavily considered over screenshots evidence.

* Screenshot containing explaination of looting rules (and if any item is reserved). If it wasn't mentioned you should consider asking for it within the raid, before it begins.
Examples of clear looting rules:
"LF2M DPS and Healer Icecrown Citadel 25. All tier tokens reserved for guild, everything else will be distributed via rolling"
"Organising VOA raid, all items to be rolled for. Nothing reserved"
"LFM Trial of the Crusader. All loot will be distributed via rolling"

** Screenshot showing raid composition (full raid group window) at the start of raid.
** Any changes of Master Looter should be documented too to further improve the evidence.
Should Raid leader change person with Master Loot he has to ensure that new ML knows how loot is distributed.

*** Screenshot showing all rolls for an item (preferably in a big chat window) starting when item roll is called for.
*** Or screenshot showing player changing looting rules during the raid.

**** Screenshot showing player taking item for himself/giving it to player who did not win roll. Raid window showing raid leader and ML should be opened as well, alternatively if person left raid after ninja a message showing him leaving raid.

In rare cases evidence other than listed above may be considered if it is glaringly obvious (e.g. priest taking all the loot including plate items and leaving raid), but otherwise please try to follow this guide as much as possible.


If a VALID report was submitted, an In-Game Staff member will look into the matter and suspend ninja's account for 60 days. Ban length increases with repeated incidents per account.


This does not cover full guild raids (although some extreme cases may be considered). However if raid is led by member of a guild and there's even just 1 "pug" member then she/he should be explained what are looting rules and this policy becomes active for such raid.

We may NOT transfer items that were lost to ninjas. GMs cannot refund any items or gold. This will simply remove the ninja temporarily from the game.

GMs should NOT be your shield against ninjas. Please bear in mind that this will not stop all ninjas and it's your best intent to take measures yourself and avoid suspicious raids, especially when leaders refuse to explain looting rules.

Do NOT deface players in public (global channel etc) especially if you have no proof against them. Actions may be taken against players who continue to call others ninjas in public channels.

Please note that if you decide to send PM via forum to member of GAMEMASTER team then you will need to include realm name as well. We also cannot guarantee that forum PM will be replied to in timely manner due to various reasons."

taken from http://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=325598 .

if it's not an upgrade for your current gear you should be rolling greed.

[SujanIsBlack]

Thank you for the answer!