1. Icecrown: Modify the Cost of the Brutal Gladiator Sets

    Old PvP sets do have potential benefits in sub-80 PvP. If you're doing BGs at the expected Blizzlike pace throughout your career then you'll be able to afford most any PvP gear that you want. Some non-Blizzlike changes are good if it encouraged more active-PvP on the server throughout other levels.

    Brutal Gladiator Sets specifically from TBC still requires arena ratings which are impossible to achieve at any point where the sets would be useful (in the 70s). This was a bit bizarre because it is usually Blizzard policy to remove special requirements from PvP gears with each expansion (the ranking requirements for the 60 set was removed from Vanilla->TBC and the arena costs removed from all sets from WotLK->Cataclysm). The only thing that made the 70 top-PvP set difficult to acquire at all was the Arena ratings, and each expansion they removed the Arena requirements (truthfully they have to because they raise rated arenas to top level in each expansion) and then the equipment enters the realm of "easily attainable" (it was always easy without the arena requirements).

    Naturally nobody at 80 with an arena rating would want to purchase these, but it's impossible for those who would want them to purchase them. It's traditionally in keeping with Blizzard policy to remove special requirements from old top-tier sets during each new expansion (and infact they did remove the arena requirements for these and WotLK sets in Cataclysm as well).

    I'm positing this as means of encouraging and rewarding those who make PvP an emphasis of their play experiences, improving the lower-levels of the game, while having 0% impact on the end-game content or balance of the game. Or in simpler terms, it is a win/win. :)

    So finally, i feel obligated to request their costs to be changed from arena rating to honor (a formula of CurrentCost * 20 = Honor Point Value would put them around the right price) as they match up with the Guardian 3 piece from the Outlands PvP vendor (the PvP vendor sells bracers, belt, and boots, and the brutal set is missing bracers, belts, and boots naturally). Or if not that, make them vote items with a low-ish cost (though I'd prefer they be acquirable in-game through PvP) so that people can use them in the intended level ranges.

    The level 70 PvP gears still require arena ratings to purchase. Since WotLK doesn't have Transmogrification (though some WotLK servers are enabling that) these sets don't really get to do anything, though they still have much to offer those who PvP regularly and reward them with cool gear for PvPing. Because of this I would propose that the Brutal Gladiator vendors be modified to charge Honor Points instead of Arena Points and no longer require an Arena Rating to purchase. This way pre-80 people can purchase them with honor points they have earned through diligent participation in BGs.

    I'd estimate the value of each piece is roughly its arena point cost x20. That would place the cost of these gears from their vendors at:

    Chest 37,500 Honor
    Head 37,500 Honor
    Hands 22,500 Honor
    Legs 37,500 Honor
    Shoulders 30,000 Honor
    Weapons:
    1 hand 34,500 honor
    2 hand 72,000 honor

    Total 271,00 Honor

    There's quite a few levels between the point that you can obtain the 70 PvP gear and the point that you can wear the level 78 PvP gear. Nowadays, the 70 PvP gear is useful longer than the 78 PvP gear because the 78 PvP gear is destined to be replaced with 80 gear (which you may have pre-80 if all things are working correctly).

    So there's that. There's also the fact that the crafted gear (lvl 78) doesn't give any class or pvp bonuses beyond the resilience. For example, the Brutal Gladiator's Battlegear 4 piece set bonus reduces the cooldown of Intercept by 5 seconds, and the BGB Gauntlets reduce the cost of Hamstring by 3. These sets can be mixed as well (you can wear 4 pieces of the brutal gladiator set and 4 pieces of the level 78 set to get the PvP skill bonuses at the loss of a bit of Stamina and Resilience (but you gain 7 sockets which can be specced with some PvP vendor gems or something).

    There's also the fact it's kinda stupid the way it is now. There is no way to obtain these pieces without being level 80 and then they are truly useless for this level. Removing the arena point cost / rating requirement and just making them cost Honor allows players to purchase them and use them for PvP. That alone should probably be enough of a reason to have them at all.

    There are people who are using the field marshal set pieces right now and doing very well with them through the 60s-69s, and it would be nice to have the same options for the 70s-79s as well. This isn't an adjustment that would unbalance anything in the least, can't mess with arena seasons, etc. Just give more options to spend honor points on and then encourage more active sub-80 PvP.

    And please, stop with the "blizzlike" argument. It is not a valid reason at all to disregard everything just to follow a perception concept. This suggestion aims for the renewal of the relevance of existing content. What's not good about that?

    Blizzard should've done this when they released WotLK. There's no practical reason for us to not try to fix and improve things that blizzard didn't in WotLK.

    And also, i'd like to say that this can be applied too for the arena season 2 (Merciless Gladiator's set/weapons) and arena season 3 (Vengefull Gladiator's set/weapons).

    Thankyou very much for reading, hope you to reconsider this for good.
    Edited: March 4, 2019

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