WotLK Scroll of Deception

[Lonelywolf]

Hi !

its really frustrating when I have at least 1.1k arena won and yet I have 4 scrolls in total :/ Does the chances increases on a higher rating ? if no, then why not ? If yes, then I am at 2.6k rating but still no drops....

[Keymouse8800]

No its pure RNG you either get it or not. I've had lucky weeks that i earned more scrolls in few days then in a month or two

[Sadtrip]

/push

I play almost every day Arena on many Characters and got so few Scrolls that its bothers me alot.
For example: last season i played 500+ games on one Character (!) and its only rewards me with 5 Scrolls Total, not even 1 complete Transmog set.

Is it really 1% Dropchance or what? Just horrible design that need a change....

[Obnoxious]

Yes, the drop chance is low, that's by design.
Scrolls dropping was originally something that only happened from bosses in Raids, which can be done a limited amount of times, also with low chances. The drop chance in PvP, something that can be spammed and even farmed by trading wins, is meant to be the way it is. Scrolls and Transmogrification are a reward and a privilege, not a right.

[Sadtrip]

I'm not saying its my right to have transmog, but it doesnt feel rewarding either, not at all.
So your opinion is, it should only be rewarded by PvE because you can get it through something thats illegal anyway. That makes no sense to me. It's also sounds a litte bit like you dont play Arena at all.

I dont demand to change my transmog everyday, but wheres the point implement transmog like this on Blackrock in this way? If i am good in Arena and reach a better Rating, transmogrification is the only reward for me if im full geared.

But i simply dont have the Scrolls to give my Character a cool transmog even though i reached the Rating. Thats nonsense...and just frustrating, not the way the game should be.

Yes of course you can spam Arenas, but it's work just like PvE. In 500 Arenamatches i sit over 8 Hours only in the Startingroom waiting for the Game to start, PvP cost time too. (Readymarker *cough*)

[Persivaln]

You saying it like we get scroll from each raid as art of final boss loot.
Pure RNG, once i did not see scroll dropping on any of 4 alts after month of raiding (clearing all ICCs, ToCs and part Ulduar with all solo-boss raids like OS).
Add wait time to gather all ppl etc. It would be much longer period. You have Tmog opportunity, spam some BGs aswel.

[Sadtrip]

You saying it like we get scroll from each raid as art of final boss loot.
Pure RNG, once i did not see scroll dropping on any of 4 alts after month of raiding (clearing all ICCs, ToCs and part Ulduar with all solo-boss raids like OS).
Add wait time to gather all ppl etc. It would be much longer period. You have Tmog opportunity, spam some BGs aswel.

I dont want to start a discussion about who should get more Scrolls or who get more at the moment.
I simply want to say that the droprate is to low at the moment and its feels not good like the way it is right now.

And like you said, i can spam Arenas and BG's: I do and dont feel enough rewarded. That's not the way you hold players by the line.

[Obnoxious]

Well, that's not going to change. The drop rate has been the same since pretty much the release and it's working as intended. The vast majority of players get their scrolls eventually (to the point many have asked for them to be account bound, because they have them in excess and wanted to transfer to alts) and are thankful we took the time to develop the whole system in an expansion that never had it.

[Sadtrip]

Well, that's not going to change. The drop rate has been the same since pretty much the release and it's working as intended. The vast majority of players get their scrolls eventually (to the point many have asked for them to be account bound, because they have them in excess and wanted to transfer to alts) and are thankful we took the time to develop the whole system in an expansion that never had it.

I doubt the Molten Team created the whole Transmog System. It's open source on TrinityCore... above all, it is very much in need of improvement anyway.
Just because it is always like that, dont mean it's good like it is. New players dont want to play 2 whole seasons on 1 Character to get enough Scrolls for a Transmog... Of course old players have them in excess, but thats not an argument also.

One simple question remains for me: What do u lose as Staff when you increase the chance of getting a Scroll? People will just play more for Scrolls.
Transmogrification is a system that was INTENDED to keep the players motivated to play, so they always have a reason to keep playing.
It's easier to get Shadowmourne than a full Transmogset. That says it all.

[Shred]

If anything, if scrolls drop more often, people will play less, because they will get the scrolls they need sooner.

[Obnoxious]

One simple question remains for me: What do u lose as Staff when you increase the chance of getting a Scroll? People will just play more for Scrolls.
Transmogrification is a system that was INTENDED to keep the players motivated to play, so they always have a reason to keep playing.
It's easier to get Shadowmourne than a full Transmogset. That says it all.

It's not about losing, it's about it working like we want it too. Transmogrification never existed in Wrath of the Lich king, so what was INTENDED was that you had nothing. We created this system with Scrolls, that work the way we meant for it to work. If you aren't satisfied I'm not sure what you want to hear. "Sorry"?

[Mitzen]

You also have the option to do PvE content for Scrolls. If you don't want to do that, then that's up to you, but don't come complaining about drop rates, when you're only utilizing half of the given options.