1. Let Us Get PvP Gear From PvP Titles/ Ranks - Icebrown/Blackrock

    We need an alternative to gear for those that don't want to do arena and get farmed by higher geared / skilled teams. We need a system that rewards hard work, not skill. I think arena should stay as a way to get gear but I would like to see the option of being able to gear via PvP ranks or titles.

    For example, High Warlord would give you access to buy WF weapons, Warlord would let you buy WF armor, Champion would let you buy Rele etc. The higher rank you have the better gear you can buy basically. The currency used to buy these could be Arena Points, Honor, Gold, or EOF.

    The problem with arena being the only way to acquire BIS PvP is it rewards highly skilled / min maxed combo teams. It's also hard to get rating when as soon as you start queing up there are BiS boys farming you for half the games. This makes it really difficult for non-bis people to gear up.

    The PvP ranking system is tedious and really long but as long as you put in the time, you will rank up. MMOs have historically been about hard work - not skill. Skill is always a factor but we need a more grindy way to gear up.

    Thank you.

  2. If they add that, then it won't be fair to people who we're playing their class, learning, improving to reach a high rating, many losses, losing their nerves to obtain wrathful gear and arena titles.

    If they add that system, people would donate less money which can be bad, servers need to be maintained and that costs money.

    My advice to you is to learn to play your class, get better gear, farm arena points to get relentless gear and get higher ratings, I see people with furious gear get 1800+ rating, I got with relentless gear max 2.1k rating and I was playing against bis geared people.

    Get better gear, focus on your gameplay, many bis geared people are dumb in the arena and you can defeat them. Inspect any bis player on icecrown server to see their arena rating, you will laugh...

  3. I think you misunderstand how tedious the PvP ranking system is. It's hundreds of thousands of HKs to get the max rank.

    Also people donating less money to buy WF doesn't justify not adding this. People buy plenty of other things besides WF using coins, myself included. But again, the PvP ranking system is tedious and there will always be those who don't want to do any grind and will just buy the gear. PvP ranking is a lot more time consuming that finding the right combo and getting to 2k arena rating in one weekend.

    About learning to play my class - again, my suggestion is a system that rewards *hard work* not *skill*. And just bc someone isn't good at the narrow gameplay of arena doesn't mean they're not good at the game in general, and other things like WPvP and BGs.

    You can theoretically farm gold to exchange for coins on Warmane Trade feature but all I'm suggesting is an alternative way to get WF for those that don't want to play arena. I think it was a bad choice for Blizz to make arena the only way to get WF and that's why in Cata they added Rated BGs. Now that you think about it arena being the only way to get BIS only lasted for 2 expansions...

  4. Everybody was complaining about Onyxias HK based PvP system.
    Now you wanna implement smth similar on wotlk?

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