Forum Is this enough information?

[Calathen]

Context: A Guardian Druid (tank) that has Off-Spec Restoration ninja looted the Needle Encrusted-Scorpion in Forge of Souls by needing on it.

While reporting someone for ninja-looting an item I provided the following type of information:
- Screenshot proving the spec he was playing
-Screenshot includes his need roll (and the fact that he won it)
-Link to his armory profile, proving that he is MS Tank and OS Resto, thus ninja-looting the item just for the sake of ninja-looting it.

You have a tank (with OS resto) needing on a DPS trinket, it is kind of clear for whoever plays the game what the issue there was.

Is this not clear enough? You can see his name/spec played/and the roll(and the fact that he won said roll)

[shhnedo]

You're expected(and required) to provide 101% solid proof of what you claim.
There's no such thing as Guardian Druid on 3.3.5 WotLK. It's just Feral and depending on how you build it, it can be a tank or a dps. In order to prove the person is a BEAR(not a cat, a BEAR) and is ninjalooting a dps trinket, you need to screenshot his char inspect and talents while having moused over both his trinkets(2 screenshots obviously).

Otherwise I can just say some priest stole a heroic choker, BAN PLOZ, and there goes your priest. Understand?

[Mitzen]

You're expected(and required) to provide 101% solid proof of what you claim.
There's no such thing as Guardian Druid on 3.3.5 WotLK. It's just Feral and depending on how you build it, it can be a tank or a dps. In order to prove the person is a BEAR(not a cat, a BEAR) and is ninjalooting a dps trinket, you need to screenshot his char inspect and talents while having moused over both his trinkets(2 screenshots obviously).

Otherwise I can just say some priest stole a heroic choker, BAN PLOZ, and there goes your priest. Understand?

Except tank icon already proves that the person is in that RDF as a tank. Not a DPS. A tank has no place to need roll on DPS trinket without asking and being allowed to.

If the OP has unaltered screenshots, it should be clear enough.

[Calathen]

Tank- Proven by armory link; Entirely gemmed/enchanted as tank

[Calathen]

Except tank icon already proves that the person is in that RDF as a tank. Not a DPS. A tank has no place to need roll on DPS trinket without asking and being allowed to.

If the OP has unaltered screenshots, it should be clear enough.

I linked an unaltered snip with all the necessary info before zoning out; However, on the 1st reply I was told to provide more Screenshots, because from what I explained/linked "it wasn't clear that he ninja looted", the entire screenshot changes nothing because all the info it adds is showing people tmogs, but I don't see how that would be relevant

[Calathen]

I linked an unaltered snip with all the necessary info before zoning out; However, on the 1st reply I was told to provide more Screenshots, because from what I explained/linked "it wasn't clear that he ninja looted", the entire screenshot changes nothing because all the info it adds is showing people tmogs, but I don't see how that would be relevant

Now I'm waiting for another reply, even though I kind of doubt anything will be done, if there needs to be so much back and forward for what seems to be quite an obvious thing (that also has proven documentation)

[Mitzen]

Looks like it's best to screenshot chat as well before, during and after rolls. This is to prove whether there was question about OS roll or not. That's the only reason I can think of they didn't act on it immediately.

[Obnoxious]

I linked an unaltered snip

So a cut screenshot, which is editing the image and won't be accepted by default.
The evidence is for the GMs, not for you, so you not finding it relevant is what's irrelevant.

[Calathen]

So a cut screenshot, which is editing the image and won't be accepted by default.
The evidence is for the GMs, not for you, so you not finding it relevant is what's irrelevant.

So because I used Snipping Tool instead of pressing PrintScreen, that makes the image irrelevant, that's a bit odd imo but anyways...

[Calathen]

Looks like it's best to screenshot chat as well before, during and after rolls. This is to prove whether there was question about OS roll or not. That's the only reason I can think of they didn't act on it immediately.

It did include the entire chat from rolls, to who won the loot, (also included RDF assigned positions/names/etc.) but apparently because I used a different tool to capture the image that makes it "edited"

[shhnedo]

1. As we haven't really seen the "screenshot" in question, we can't really be sure if your interpretation of "enough evidence" is the same as ours, can we?
2. The issue isn't really Snipping Tool, it's you probably only screenshotting PART of the screen, which YOU think is relevant. Even if you didn't actually do any editing per se, you DID only show PART of your screen.

Instead of being overly defensive about the way you screenshot stuff, take not for future reference and just capture the entire screen, regardless of the method, and report with that as proof. Don't just ASSUME it's enough. I highly doubt GMs act based on assumptions...

[SCP1471]

Bears need DPS gear too. I hope I never end up in a group with someone who throws a tantrum because they lost a roll.

Ban? Nobody should face consequences for rolling on loot.

[shhnedo]

Bears need DPS gear too.

Nobody should face consequences for rolling on loot.

Not entirely true. While your "clothes" are obviously agility + dps stats items, your trinkets aren't. Hypothetically, how does some crit + crappy arp proc benefit a bear more than stamina/armor?
Yes, there SHOULD be consequences for people rolling on loot... WHEN THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO ROLL ON IT TO BEGIN WITH.