stigma of clicking?

[shamy1]

Super pro keybinding guide v1:

* You can use whatever bind you like AS LONG AS YOU CAN DO IT WHILE HOLDING DOWN RIGHT CLICK WHILE MOVING WITH W-A-S-D.
* Unbind S from back peddle. S is now a green key (see image below).
* Most commonly used spells should be bound to Green Keys.
* Anything with over a minute cooldown should be moved to a modifier controlled keybind (Ctrl + E | Shift + Q etc.)

I don't think this has taken into account the difference in people's hand/finger sizes, keyboards etc, but i can agree with most things. Binding spells that you rarely use, such as buffs, to keys that are further away is also fine. I have my buffs at F5,F6 and F7 and Ressurection at Ctrl+Y which isn't easy to reach but usually when you're ressing someone you don't care too much about moving around

PS: Your keyboard may or may not have 8 F1s, that could cause problems in-game :(

OT: I had a friend back when i played BC, he was a half clicker. He had some of the more important spells binded such as kick, but still clicked a lot. He was a multi rank 1 Glad and a pretty good player, so yes, some people can play well without binds..but then again, BC was a much slower expansion and if you can't react to stuff in WOTLK in time you're probably dead

[tyll]

ik im kinda necroing this topic but i want to thank all of you for the hate the love and all the critisism ever since i got ran over about 5 or 6 years ago i am unable to bind wout a wrist brace i feel weak when i wear a wrist brace but anyways thanks for the help i will put all the advise into consideration except for the lol clicking sucks dont care if u have a bum wrist but i wasnt expecting all these comments thank you

[tyll]

i think i will start a new pally but only with key binds so that means i gotta wear a wrist brace or my hand locks up im going to try and post my results on a new topic wish me luck

[taralej]

Why do you wear a wrist brace to begin with? I only use a wrist band on my right hand because I've developed a knuckle from dragging my hand on the desk.

On-topic, clicking is just bad. There are people who say they click faster or as fast as they can press; there are people who say that clicking has nothing to do with how good the player is, it's just a matter of preference - that's just wrong. Wrong. I remember some time ago some female draenei mage player (he had a fetish for female draeneis, seriously, I think he's banned now) made some sort of PvP video of him doing, I dunno, duels, BGs and arenas, and the guy was actually a clicker and the video was horrible, the music was horrible, his opponents were horrible, he was horrible. He kept saying how he's better because he's a clicker and how he tried pressing, but it's not as good. If someone tells you this, then he's just delusional and will not improve his play until he realizes it.

If you're clicking, it means you're focusing on a part of the game, which you shouldn't be focusing on at all - controlling your character. If you can't even control your character effortlessly and have to click your spells, wasting time looking at your spell bar and moving your cursor over said spell, then what's left for maximizing your rotation, following tactics and keeping awareness? "But I see so many people even from vanilla being clic..." - yes, they were bad. Most players were bad on vanilla. Including me, including most other people reading this topic. That's pretty much because WoW was our first MMORPG.

Forget about clicking. Erase it from your mind. Bind every spell that you use, keeping common spells and emergency cooldowns on comfortable bindings, and putting rarely used but still useful spells on the more faraway but still reachable bindings. The only things which I do not bind are buffs (sitting in my upper right corner), professions and mounts (bottom right corner).

[Ygraine]

I reached 2200~ rating as a clicker back in TBC retail in 2 vs 2. There are lots of people who consider themselves "pro" here, with tons of keybinds and macros and they can't even reach 2000. Think about that :)

[taralej]

Good for you. 2200 rating is nothing. Think about that :)

[Elipas]

I reached 2200~ rating as a clicker back in TBC retail in 2 vs 2. There are lots of people who consider themselves "pro" here, with tons of keybinds and macros and they can't even reach 2000. Think about that :)

There are many pvp environments,you get pro in arenas i get pro in duels still counts.
3v3 is the deal,not 2v2 with warr/hpala or fmage/spriest but ye it's about the player who makes the class.
Think about that ;)

[romz]

I do a bit of both clicking and using keybinds. Mostly cause using Control + Q or 1 or whatever is not comfortable. So the only ones I key bind are Q, E, R, F MMB, Shift Q, Shift E, Shift R, Shift F.

But really just find keybinds that are comfortable for you.

[Skoobydoo]

I reached 2200~ rating as a clicker back in TBC retail in 2 vs 2. There are lots of people who consider themselves "pro" here, with tons of keybinds and macros and they can't even reach 2000. Think about that :)

athene got rank 1 in TBC that can tell you what was the skill level of players back then,so yes clicking was not that big of a deal back then but now...if you are 2200 rating player clicking you can probably go 2400-2500 if you start binding your spells.

anyway to the OP play the way you like it and dont care about other people opinion because this is a game and you play it for your own fun not for someone else sake.
also i will really recommend you playing healer role if you are clicker,simple because you can get addon, such as healbot.what healbot will do is it will let you use spells simple clicking the raid frame of a party/raid member.for example LMB can be you flash of light,RMB can be holy light.combine this setups with shift alt and so on and you rdy for any raid.

[Elipas]

Pve requires no keybinds to be good at it. but pvp needs keybinds so you cnn play faster,the difference between clicker and keybinder is that keybinder is better in everything,but some players clickers win keybinders players a rare thing,but is possible.

[taralej]

A keybinder just has faster reaction time and better focus. That's a pretty simple thing to see and understand. Every time you want to cast a spell as a clicker, you have to look at your action bar, move your cursor there, click the spell and register that the spell has been cast, so you can move your cursor away. When you're pushing, you're not looking at your cursor or your action bar - you're looking at your screen, you're not moving your cursor to click a spell - you simply push the keybind. It's a no-brainer, really. Claiming that clicking is not worse than keybinding shows that one has very little understanding of human reflexes and reaction time. It's just not better. With a lot of practice, it CAN come close to keybinding but that's it. It will never be equal to keybinding, what's left to say "better". You just physically can't mouse & click a spell faster than you can push its keybind.

[krzyt]

Well, I think some games are more user-friendly when it comes to using keyboard to play.
I mean the default WoW keybinds are pretty bad: it's impossible to use 1234567890-= with one hand.
So one is forced to do their own keybings, and some people are too lazy to do that.

I used to click, but then slowly changed to keybinding and it's much better.
As the people above me said clicking forces you to look at your spell bar instead of what's happeing on the screen.

My binds are quite unusual:
I use W to autorun and FG to strafe, because I find it really hard to strafe with AD and use spell at the same time.
My spells binds are all the same across characters, not 'character specific', and I tend to use same place for similar spells (my kick, brain freeze, counterspell and pummel are on shift-q and my disarms are on shift-s).

I use my right vertical bars for proffesions, quests and comsumables (flasks and food).

I sometimes do changes in my binds, as I don't think they are perfect.

First I would keybind spells and then click them anyway, but as time passed....


I think even people who say they click don't really click all their spells, they just use 12345 binds and click the rest, because they don't reach other keys.

[Elipas]

Well, I think some games are more user-friendly when it comes to using keyboard to play.
I mean the default WoW keybinds are pretty bad: it's impossible to use 1234567890-= with one hand.
So one is forced to do their own keybings, and some people are too lazy to do that.

I used to click, but then slowly changed to keybinding and it's much better.
As the people above me said clicking forces you to look at your spell bar instead of what's happeing on the screen.

My binds are quite unusual:
I use W to autorun and FG to strafe, because I find it really hard to strafe with AD and use spell at the same time.
My spells binds are all the same across characters, not 'character specific', and I tend to use same place for similar spells (my kick, brain freeze, counterspell and pummel are on shift-q and my disarms are on shift-s).

I use my right vertical bars for proffesions, quests and comsumables (flasks and food).

I sometimes do changes in my binds, as I don't think they are perfect.

First I would keybind spells and then click them anyway, but as time passed....


I think even people who say they click don't really click all their spells, they just use 12345 binds and click the rest, because they don't reach other keys.

Its easy to get keybinds you dont need to be talented or born for it,just to get used to it,it's all about trying and experimenting them,its easy lol to bind but you gonna play slowly etc at start,but you will become better than before when you where clicker. It's their own fault that people don't wanna become better.

[Audiofreq]

So the other day on the wrath realm deathwing I was doing a reg rdf to get my 2 truimphs like I always do after im done farming on my 80 pally who's still in blues in the middle of the instance I lost aggro on a mob or 2 this rouge asked if I was a clicker and I said yes so he starts wisping me abusively so I left and told him to tank it since he's better then me I can't bind seeing my wrist locks up when I do.so Why are pepple are hpstile tpward clickers?

2 Words. Razer Naga.

[Ygraine]

Wasn't aware people would take offense to my post, ha. I guess someone's ego couldn't take the fact a clicker reached higher rating than them so they had to come up with excuses. :)

I thought it was a well known fact that reaching higher ratings on retail was way harder than on private servers - considering most top rankers here abused a plethora of bugs and spammed mmr dropping to get there.
The point of my post was to show that you can be a decent player and click.