Nerfing Naxxramas and Obsidian Sanctum

[LikeDwind]

Personaly i like it the way it is and Ulduar imo is too easy

[bloodshedsword]

Personaly i like it the way it is and Ulduar imo is too easy

Its easy only if you have BIS gear from Naxx 25, But if you dont have biss naxx 25 gear, try to kill Ignis on 10 man and then comment here.
We did Ulduar 10 man last night and none from us had much gear from naxx 25. Ignis went berserk 6 times with all nukes going on with 1 or 2% health.
Then we kind of started to use each and everything what we could on our toes and downed him with 4 or 5 seconds left for berserk

Kind of same story with XT robot. So dont just swing the sword in the airs saying its ez pz thing when you are on BIS. for BIS it will be always an easy thing as far as people are doing their job well.

I personally dont think there is any need to change Ulduar in any manner, but yes NAxx should be nerfed a bit so that the guilds far behind or being formed atm can be boosted up

[pinecleandog]

Personaly i like it the way it is and Ulduar imo is too easy

That's Ulduar though, you still have hard mode to do too.

Anyway, I'm not going to expect a complete removal of raid buffs. But maybe halving it would be reasonable. Or even just nerfing the damage the bosses do.
We're fine for DPS. Despite the fact Patchwerk in 25man has the same-ish HP as LK in 10man heroic, it's not an impossible amount of damage to do. The real kicker is the damage the bosses do that's unforgiving. A 40k hp+ defense capped tank gets one hit by Patchwerk quiet easily still. And don't even think about doing 10 man. The numbers are clearly designed for 25 man raids, but the 300% buff does not scale the same for 10 man raids.

[rumbleshotz]

Its easy only if you have BIS gear from Naxx 25, But if you dont have biss naxx 25 gear, try to kill Ignis on 10 man and then comment here.
We did Ulduar 10 man last night and none from us had much gear from naxx 25. Ignis went berserk 6 times with all nukes going on with 1 or 2% health.
Then we kind of started to use each and everything what we could on our toes and downed him with 4 or 5 seconds left for berserk

Kind of same story with XT robot. So dont just swing the sword in the airs saying its ez pz thing when you are on BIS. for BIS it will be always an easy thing as far as people are doing their job well.

I personally dont think there is any need to change Ulduar in any manner, but yes NAxx should be nerfed a bit so that the guilds far behind or being formed atm can be boosted up

then gear urself up in naxx 25 before?

[purepownage]

Those guilds also took huge huge time to clear it when they were not BiS geared !
Once BiS geared and used to things, everything became a faceroll !

Nope. If you're preraid BiS your raid should be able to clear all of it in at least two raid days @ 4 hours each. I honestly believe a lot less, if the people know what they are doing.

[bloodshedsword]

then gear urself up in naxx 25 before?

Will you be saying the same when TOC is out ?
taking into account EOC will drop from level 80 dungeons as well.

The guys who are joining atm, do you want them to keep shagging in naxx for next 2 months and they they raid ulduar, while they are not even getting ulduar, toc gets out and so on they will always keep lacking on time frame for a fresh new content.

tbh is it your personal ego which doesn't wants new comers to gear up ?

[Gwola]

Will you be saying the same when TOC is out ?
taking into account EOC will drop from level 80 dungeons as well.

The guys who are joining atm, do you want them to keep shagging in naxx for next 2 months and they they raid ulduar, while they are not even getting ulduar, toc gets out and so on they will always keep lacking on time frame for a fresh new content.

tbh is it your personal ego which doesn't wants new comers to gear up ?

ToC was one of the greatest mistakes Blizzard did in terms of pushing content too early . Just putting this out there .

[cherrychops]

the whole point is this isn't supposed to be a Blizzlike realm....

I think you will find they used to use "the most blizzlike" in their server msg... so yeah if its not ment to be blizzlike... think you've been blind son :P

[bloodshedsword]

ToC was one of the greatest mistakes Blizzard did in terms of pushing content too early . Just putting this out there .

Ok then let me re-write the words for you

Will you be saying the same when ICC is out ?
taking into account EOT will drop from level 80 dungeons as well.

[Diccon84]

I didn't realize MANY people struggle with theses encounters so greatly, but I'm LAUGHING about it. It seems as though people are just playing here because they think it's awesome how big the server is, but they still want RAID WITH FRIENDS AND ENJOY THE SERVER BLIZZLIKE. They don't understand why this server is truly awesome for the most part (THE MOST AWESOME PART IS ME :)

Will you be saying the same when TOC is out ?
tbh is it your personal ego which doesn't wants new comers to gear up ?

That's is exactly why some few players posting here are trying to stop a BLIZLIKE Naxx, they love be the top of the server and not want more competence here, like our "Awesome friend"

[Slerbaz]

My guild has farmed Naxx 25 for months, and most of the geared players are so tired they can't bother with it anymore. Our new members can't pug it as no one is doing it, only way to get it done is if some other guild needs randoms to fill their raid. Is pre-raid bis good enough for Ulduar 10?

[kidsgetrekt]

Naxx nerf = OK
OS = NO, why ? Because, proof you're worth to kill OS+3 if you want the Mount and it shouldnt be FACEROLL.

[Handepsilon]

My guild has farmed Naxx 25 for months, and most of the geared players are so tired they can't bother with it anymore. Our new members can't pug it as no one is doing it, only way to get it done is if some other guild needs randoms to fill their raid. Is pre-raid bis good enough for Ulduar 10?

I'd love to do it really, but with most WoTLK raids except VoA needing achievement as Curriculum Vitae and being new to the instance, I'm pretty much stuck with either doing older raid or daily heroics.

[Eldonor]

It should be kept the same, new players that are still leveling are playing it for the same reason that the raids are buffed! Dont mess this for new players, they want to experience buffed naxx and other things too. It's not THAT hard afterall.

Well, I came here for experiencing the raids like they were back in WotLK, not with like 300% Health...
Heck if I knew it earlier I wouldn't even have made an account...

The fact that the raids are buffed is nowhere to be found on the website... I found out about it while I was reading on the forums.
If I didn't come to the forums because of hour-long queue times I probably would've found out about it at Level 80, leaving me with much disappointment.

Are all Warmane realms like this or is there a place where I can raid original Ulduar?

[Handepsilon]

That would be the 7x xp rate Ragnaros/Deathwing. I think they're not buffed at all